Re: Can we break Rule One? (was RE: Proposed Draft Charter for Choreo graphy WG)

I suspect some possible misunderstandings
and so will attempt to clarify a couple of facets
of my recent messages and then will probably
go back to lurking:

1. I am not suggesting ws-arch do a bunch of
legal research or embed a bunch of legal rules
into a choreography standard.  Far from it.
Be very very afraid.

2. I wasn't criticizing David Burdett's business example
when I asked how much of it had been implemented
by anybody.  

My point in both cases was that as far as I can tell,
nobody has done much actual execution of complex
multi-party business choreographies where actual
legal commitments were involved.

So when somebody says, "this is how EDI does it",
I ask "did anybody ever automated it that way in EDI?"
and the answer so far is invariably "no".

Or when somebody says "this is how 'business' does it"
and I ask "did anybody in business ever do it that way?",
the answer still comes back "no".

A decent amount of practice can be documented in 
Web-automated no-human two-party contract formation 
and execution transactions in RosettaNet.  
Maybe other places (OBI?). 
I'd be very interested in live examples of multi-party 
or even multi-transaction collaborations where 
business contracts (e.g. orders) were formed and fulfilled.

-Bob Haugen