RE: FW: Reliable Messaging Summary

"Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)" <[email protected]> Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:09:17 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.services.ws-arch
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I'm happy either way.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Orchard [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler); 'Duane Nickull'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FW: Reliable Messaging Summary


Personally, I think Duane's definition goes to far into design.
"receive an event" is design, whereas "able to determine" is a
requirement.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:23 AM
> To: Duane Nickull
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: FW: Reliable Messaging Summary
> 
> 
> 
> Fine with me, but I fear that the nuance is kind of lost on me, so 
> perhaps I'm not the right one to decide.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FW: Reliable Messaging Summary
> 
> 
> 
> Suggestion (My $0.02 CAD - take it or ignore it ;-)
> 
> Reliable Messaging:
> 
> 1) The ability:
> 
>    (a)of a sender of a message to be able to determine
> whether a given 
>    message has been received by its intended receiver and to take 
> compensating action in the event a given message has been 
> determined not
> 
> to have been received.
> [DN] suggest wording reflect event driven methodology and add "within
> set parameters".  Without imposing too tight an implementation 
> constraint, it may be nice to at least suggest an event 
> driven model. eg
> 
> - change to:
>    (a)of a message sender to receive verification that a a given
> message has been received by its intended receiver within the set 
> parameters or receive an event-notification that it failed.
> 
>    (b)of the intended receiver of the message to be assured that it
> receives and processes a given message once and only once. (c)of both 
> sender and receiver of a message to carry out (a) and (b) with a high 
> probability of success in the face of inevitable, yet often 
> unpredictable, network, system, and software failures. 2) 
> Common Usage: 
> An acknowledgement infrastructure between application and transport 
> layers intended to improve messaging reliability as described above.
> 
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