Re: [Sigia-l] Sigia-l Digest, Vol 51, Issue 9
Vincent <[email protected]>
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Follow On Dec 18, 2008, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Send Sigia-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/sigia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Sigia-l digest..." > > > Searchable list archive: http://www.info-arch.org/lists/sigia-l/ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Agile & User Experience: What are the common > denominators? (Rich Rogan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:39:08 -0500 > From: "Rich Rogan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Agile & User Experience: What are the common > denominators? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Dave, > > The IxDA organization has many discussions regarding Agile and UX, > my first > inquiry with this topic on IxDA was almost 4 years ago. Check out > "ixda.org" > list serve. > > To give you a quick summary of the IxDA discussion, (most of this you > probably already know): > > Agile is an umbrella of flexible project management, requirements > gathering > and engineering methodologies, which allow for rapid/dynamic project > change, > in order to realize cost savings, improved visibility, and increased > product > quality. > > All of this looks great on paper and works pretty well in many > cases, except > as Agile was for the most part invented by savvy engineers for > engineering > purposes, they "forgot" about the user experience. > > (No kidding about the above statement, my first person experience - > I was in > a Scrum training session with Jeff Sutherland, (co-founder of > Scrum), and > asked him what the Scrum plan was to integrate "User Interface > design","User > Interaction" and "Usability". He was at a complete loss for words, > he had > never even thought about integrating UX/IA/ID in scrum.) > > This big hole of "non-inclusion" of the "user or user surrogate", or > "Interface/Interaction design" at all, makes Agile methodologies > good for > developing code, but not necessarily for developing good products. > > Then we IA/UX/ID'ers come along with our focus on good products from > the > users perspective, and realize Agile can be great for Usability and > Design > as well, the methodologies just need a few "UX Design plugings". > > And so we figure out how to integrate IA/UX/ID in the Agile > methodology, > and the rest is history, (until something better/newer then Agile > comes > along, (repeat at story beginning, possibly changing characters > around ;)). > > Generally the way we integrate into Agile methodologies is mirroring > the > "engineering perspective" from a "design perspective", with > integrated user > input, one step ahead of engineering, with the flexibility for last > minute > change management, (IxDA list has all the details). > > Hope that helps, best of luck with your presentation :) > > J. Rich Rogan > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dave Robertson > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> First - apologies to subscribers of Agile-Usability and IxD for >> cross-posting... >> >> My name is Dave Robertson, and although you can't see him, this is my >> partner, John (JJ) Johnston. We've been asked to deliver a >> presentation >> for friends of ThoughtWorks Canada in January (to which all of you >> are >> welcome to come, but more later). JJ is an agile guy who's >> interested in >> user experience and I'm the user experience guy who's interested in >> Agile. >> >> >> We've decided to make an argument that Agile and UX share a number of >> common values and that these values should form a foundation for >> better >> integration (rather than simply trying to mash together our >> respective >> techniques or chucking rocks at opposing sides). >> >> > > > -- > Joseph Rich Rogan > President UX/UI Inc. > http://www.jrrogan.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Sigia-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/sigia-l > > > End of Sigia-l Digest, Vol 51, Issue 9 > ************************************** ------------ IA Summit 2009: Peabody Hotel in Memphis Pre cons on March 18 and 19 Sessions on March 20, 21, 22 ----- When replying, please *trim your post* as much as possible. *Plain text, please; NO Attachments Searchable Archive at http://www.info-arch.org/lists/sigia-l/ ________________________________________ Sigia-l mailing list -- post to: [email protected] Changes to subscription: http://mail.asis.org/mailman/listinfo/sigia-l