Re: [Sigia-l] Calling Senior UX Consultants! - Full UCD

Had a recruiter call me yesterday asking for a senior UX person for $40-60/hr. When I laughed, he said he currently had 300 resumes interested in the position. My response, "Good luck with that."

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Todd Zaki Warfel
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On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Will Evans wrote:

> Respect Joe.
> 
> No matter how you slice it, 3-4 years is a junior ux professional level.
> This is where a person learns their craft, focusing on the core activities
> under the mentorship of more senior ux designers. 5-8 years is a mid-level
> ux professional level. As for compensation, assuming industry standards for
> education and training, the market rate for a junior (<4 years experience)
> is between $50-$70K. This isn't just NYC rates, this is nationwide average
> compensation. For a mid-level ux professional with 5-8 years experience and
> references, the compensation is between $65K-$85K. Anyone thinking that
> they can secure a senior contributor ux professional (lead, but not
> manager), for less than $85K is hitting the bong a little too hard, and
> should perhaps ease off the Phish concerts and patchouli-scented drum
> circles.
> 
> These numbers aren't just pulled out of my proverbial ass - they are backed
> up by the UPA Salary Survey and the IAI Salary Survey, the purpose of which
> is to gather and report on compensations for ux professionals by location,
> experience, title, etc.
> 
> Link: http://www.iainstitute.org/en/learn/research/salary_survey.php
> 
> The key is to properly educate clients and hiring managers/hr professionals
> so that they don't waste time attempting to source for a position, level,
> compensation that simply doesn't exist. Is it possible, perhaps, to find a
> junior to mid-level ux professional for anything less than $60K? Perhaps,
> if you expand the definition of mid-level and professional to such an
> extent that it loses all meaning. For true ux professionals with verified,
> referenced skills, it simply is not possible - you'll be getting the McRib
> of UX, and it's not our fault when your project goes south like a duck in
> winter because the client was too piss-ass cheap to pay for a real
> professional.
> 
> What's A McRib Made Of:
> http://consumerist.com/2011/11/whats-a-mcrib-made-of.html
> 
> 
> 
> ~ will
> 
> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
> and what you innovate are design problems"
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Joe Sokohl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> First of all, 3-4 years isn't senior.
>> Second of all, $45,000 isn't a senior consultant's salary.
>> 
>> joe
>> Joe Sokohl
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