Re: [Sigia-l] Agile, Scrum and UX?

References to "pigs and chickens" has long been since removed from the
Scrum Guide :)

But it is more the domain of the Product Owner, not the Team. That's not to
say, though, that a discussion can't be had on the consequences of too many
criteria in a DOD and that perhaps a team should be aiming for WCAG 2.0 A
on a first pass to ensure that a specific user story fits into a Sprint.



On 22 March 2015 at 09:36, Jonathan Baker-Bates <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As a one-time Agile Alliance Certified Scrum Master, I would say that
> as long as both the pigs and the chickens all agree with the
> definition of "done", then that's fine. However, the default in scrum
> is always to produce production ready *code* (not wireframes or
> personas) at the end of every sprint, and from the very first sprint.
> See antipattern 16 (from the standard texts on the subject):
>
>
> http://www.agileadvice.com/2011/12/05/referenceinformation/24-common-scrum-pitfalls-summarized/
>
> ... and of course the endless debates that produces!
>
> https://www.scrum.org/Forums/aft/1273
>
> But we digress here.
>
> @Tom: are we helping at all, or should we just can it?
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
> On 21 March 2015 at 22:21, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Scrum's Sprints don't have to focus on software. It can be used to
> deliver anything that the Product Owner dedices is of value. A whole
> Sprint's Increment may just be dedicated to learning with 'knowledge
> products'.
> >
> > The idea behind 'production ready' is that what ever is created is fully
> complete within the confines of the Sprint to what ever standard the
> quality/satisfaction criteria (Definition of Done) specifies.
> >
> > Things that are not software have been delivered using Scrum
> >
> > * The SAAB Gripen fighter jet was made with Scrum.
> >
> > * The wikispeed car
> >
> > I've delivered UX consulting recommendations papers using Scrum whose
> tram was only ux people. Each Increment consisted of 'production ready'
> personas, tree structures and prototypes because that was the outcome
> sought by the Product Owner by the client. These would be used much later
> to help guide a web project.
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> > Sent from my HTC
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Skot Nelson" <[email protected]>
> > To: "SIG Information Architecture" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Sigia-l] Agile, Scrum and UX?
> > Date: Sun, Mar 22, 2015 6:54 AM
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > There notion that "every sprint results in production ready code" seems
> antithetical to agile itself.
> > --
> > Skot Nelson
> > http://www.penguinstorm.com/
> > twitter. penguinstorm
> >
> >> On Mar 21, 2015, at 12:35, Thomas Donehower <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> print yields production ready software?  Are you saying there could be
> sprints that are devoted to just prototyping for example
> >
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