Re: Working on SIM-82

Any progress on this issue?

Mathias

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[email protected]>
To: "opensymphony-sitemesh" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-sitemesh] Working on SIM-82


> Sure - if it's done on a branch, I'm all for it. We'll test it as much 
> as we can on different servers, but please use i18n characters in your 
> tests - that's the hardest part to get right.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
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> On 10/03/2004, at 1:30 PM, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 18:51, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> >> I'm a +1 on this _as long as you're willing to put in the testing
> >> effort_.
> >>
> >> Sorry to be a bore on this (we'd all like SiteMesh to be better), 
> >> but...
> >>
> >> Trust me when I say that Scott has put in a s**tload of time testing
> >> SiteMesh on all of the different application servers we support 
> >> (Orion,
> >> Resin, Jetty, JBoss, Tomcat, Weblogic, Websphere, SunOne, JRun) and
> >> we've found that developing SiteMesh is like playing whack-a-mole. Fix
> >> something (like i18n) on one server and it then breaks on another.
> >
> > Sure. That's why I was bringing it up to the list instead of just
> > hacking away until it works for *my* needs. I don't have every server,
> > not by a long shot - I'd need some kind of group support, at the very
> > least, participating in testing and fixing.
> >
> >> The existing test suite is pretty good, but testing is laborious
> >> because it really requires setting up all of these servers and
> >> hammering at them one by one.
> >>
> >> At the moment the only real SiteMesh issues that I know of are the 
> >> HTML
> >> file problems on some Tomcat versions, and the i18n problem with Resin
> >> + Velocity decorators (I believe this one is a Resin bug but will 
> >> check
> >> with Scott).
> >
> > Well, the Tomcat issues are pretty severe. It makes sense once you know
> > what the problems are, but the solution is unsatisfactory - and 
> > remember
> > that Tomcat is *probably* the most popular container out there. Being
> > unable to decorate static content in the most popular container out
> > there (again, I don't have substantive numbers, but I think it's a safe
> > guess) is Not A Good Thing.
> >
> > Luckily, it's SIM-83 that gave me a good idea about how to fix it,
> > although I'm quite sure there are issues I won't anticipate offhand.
> > Again, my goal was to get some sense of community support for fixing 
> > the
> > thing once and for all. If I'm doing this as an island effort there's 
> > no
> > point as Tomcat isn't a "normal" container for me.
> >
> >> Can we maybe do this on a branch if it's going to hack at the core?
> >> (which I agree is a complete ball of wax at the moment - but most of
> >> that is because all the container specific stuff are bug fixes gained
> >> through much pain in the past).
> >
> > Sure, I had no intention of putting into HEAD until it was ready.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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