Re: Working on SIM-82

Not yet. I've been slammed between the magazine, work, and life outside of
those two things. :)

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Mathias Bogaert wrote:

> Any progress on this issue?
>
> Mathias
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[email protected]>
> To: "opensymphony-sitemesh" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-sitemesh] Working on SIM-82
>
>
> > Sure - if it's done on a branch, I'm all for it. We'll test it as much
> > as we can on different servers, but please use i18n characters in your
> > tests - that's the hardest part to get right.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> > --
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> > Confluence - the professional J2EE wiki - tried it yet?
> > http://www.atlassian.com/confluence/
> >
> > On 10/03/2004, at 1:30 PM, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 18:51, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> > >> I'm a +1 on this _as long as you're willing to put in the testing
> > >> effort_.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry to be a bore on this (we'd all like SiteMesh to be better),
> > >> but...
> > >>
> > >> Trust me when I say that Scott has put in a s**tload of time testing
> > >> SiteMesh on all of the different application servers we support
> > >> (Orion,
> > >> Resin, Jetty, JBoss, Tomcat, Weblogic, Websphere, SunOne, JRun) and
> > >> we've found that developing SiteMesh is like playing whack-a-mole. Fix
> > >> something (like i18n) on one server and it then breaks on another.
> > >
> > > Sure. That's why I was bringing it up to the list instead of just
> > > hacking away until it works for *my* needs. I don't have every server,
> > > not by a long shot - I'd need some kind of group support, at the very
> > > least, participating in testing and fixing.
> > >
> > >> The existing test suite is pretty good, but testing is laborious
> > >> because it really requires setting up all of these servers and
> > >> hammering at them one by one.
> > >>
> > >> At the moment the only real SiteMesh issues that I know of are the
> > >> HTML
> > >> file problems on some Tomcat versions, and the i18n problem with Resin
> > >> + Velocity decorators (I believe this one is a Resin bug but will
> > >> check
> > >> with Scott).
> > >
> > > Well, the Tomcat issues are pretty severe. It makes sense once you know
> > > what the problems are, but the solution is unsatisfactory - and
> > > remember
> > > that Tomcat is *probably* the most popular container out there. Being
> > > unable to decorate static content in the most popular container out
> > > there (again, I don't have substantive numbers, but I think it's a safe
> > > guess) is Not A Good Thing.
> > >
> > > Luckily, it's SIM-83 that gave me a good idea about how to fix it,
> > > although I'm quite sure there are issues I won't anticipate offhand.
> > > Again, my goal was to get some sense of community support for fixing
> > > the
> > > thing once and for all. If I'm doing this as an island effort there's
> > > no
> > > point as Tomcat isn't a "normal" container for me.
> > >
> > >> Can we maybe do this on a branch if it's going to hack at the core?
> > >> (which I agree is a complete ball of wax at the moment - but most of
> > >> that is because all the container specific stuff are bug fixes gained
> > >> through much pain in the past).
> > >
> > > Sure, I had no intention of putting into HEAD until it was ready.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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