Re: SVG SMIL news from Google

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Hi David,

As with all web things, the community matters and it was the community that
convinced IE to add SVG a few years back, and so at least for now the
deprecation is (as I said at TGW last year), like Winston Churchill:-)

In any case, SVG in <img> definitely should be supported, the lack of
scripting mitigates most security worries.

In other news, FF48 shipped Web Animations which is great news for folks
wanting things to animate on a parallel thread to avoid jank on the main
thread, so perhaps you should start exploring that API (admittedly JS, but
I'd hope we can someday find a declarative syntax that folks would be happy
implementing).

Alex

On 17 August 2016 at 15:46, David Dailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> This just out from Google (thanks to one of the SVG enthusiasts at Ello
> for letting me know).
>
>
>
> Excerpt: =E2=80=9CWe value all of your feedback, and it's clear that ther=
e are
> use cases serviced by SMIL that just don=E2=80=99t have high-fidelity rep=
lacements
> yet. As a result, we=E2=80=99ve decided to suspend our intent to deprecat=
e and take
> smaller steps toward other options.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/
> blink-dev/5o0yiO440LM%5B126-150%5D
>
>
>
> Delighted to hear this, Phil and Alex!
>
>
>
> I thought that others here might be interested to know.
>
>
>
> Now, if as Amelia points out[1], folks can work on convincing places like
> FB, Google Plus, Twitter and Wikipedia that SVG in <img> adds value to
> their platforms =E2=80=93 and is safe--, the web will become a richer pla=
ce.  Am I
> correct in concluding from what I read at the links you provided, Amelia,
> that SVG in <img> is, as much as anything on the web, safe right now?
>
>
>
> Smil(es)
>
> David
>
>
>
> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2016Aug/0030.html
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi David,<div><br></div><div>As with all web things, the c=
ommunity matters and it was the community that convinced IE to add SVG a fe=
w years back, and so at least for now the deprecation is (as I said at TGW =
last year), like Winston Churchill:-)</div><div><br></div><div>In any case,=
 SVG in &lt;img&gt; definitely should be supported, the lack of scripting m=
itigates most security worries.</div><div><br></div><div>In other news, FF4=
8 shipped Web Animations which is great news for folks wanting things to an=
imate on a parallel thread to avoid jank on the main thread, so perhaps you=
 should start exploring that API (admittedly JS, but I&#39;d hope we can so=
meday find a declarative syntax that folks would be happy implementing).</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Alex</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 August 2016 at 15:46, David Dailey <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dda=
[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_56669=
09975981329931WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This just out from Googl=
e (thanks to one of the SVG enthusiasts at Ello for letting me know).<u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Excerpt: =E2=80=9C<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#222222;background:white">We value=
 all of your feedback, and it&#39;s clear that there are use cases serviced=
 by SMIL that just don=E2=80=99t have high-fidelity replacements yet. As a =
result, we=E2=80=99ve decided to suspend our intent to deprecate and take s=
maller steps toward other options.=E2=80=9D</span><u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/5o0yiO440LM=
%5B126-150%5D" target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/a/<wbr>chromium.=
org/forum/#!topic/<wbr>blink-dev/5o0yiO440LM%5B126-<wbr>150%5D</a><u></u><u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Delighted to hear this, Phil and Alex!<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought that other=
s here might be interested to know.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now, if as Amelia points ou=
t[1], folks can work on convincing places like FB, Google Plus, Twitter and=
 Wikipedia that SVG in &lt;img&gt; adds value to their platforms =E2=80=93 =
and is safe--, the web will become a richer place.=C2=A0 Am I correct in co=
ncluding from what I read at the links you provided, Amelia, that SVG in &l=
t;img&gt; is, as much as anything on the web, safe right now?<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">S=
mil(es)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">David<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">[1] <a hr=
ef=3D"https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2016Aug/0030.html" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/<wbr>Public/www-svg/2016Aug/0030=
.<wbr>html</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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