RE: SVG SMIL news from Google
"David Dailey" <[email protected]> Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:57:25 -0400
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01D1FA64.ACEEA690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex, =20 Yes, and thanks for reminding us of the community spirit that helped get = SVG as a standard =E2=80=9Cstandardized=E2=80=9D and thanks to the = Microsoft folks who helped move it along! =20 Let=E2=80=99s all motivate support for web animations! =20 David =20 From: Alex Danilo [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:17 AM To: David Dailey Cc: www-svg; Philip Rogers Subject: Re: SVG SMIL news from Google =20 Hi David, =20 As with all web things, the community matters and it was the community = that convinced IE to add SVG a few years back, and so at least for now = the deprecation is (as I said at TGW last year), like Winston = Churchill:-) =20 In any case, SVG in <img> definitely should be supported, the lack of = scripting mitigates most security worries. =20 In other news, FF48 shipped Web Animations which is great news for folks = wanting things to animate on a parallel thread to avoid jank on the main = thread, so perhaps you should start exploring that API (admittedly JS, = but I'd hope we can someday find a declarative syntax that folks would = be happy implementing). =20 Alex =20 On 17 August 2016 at 15:46, David Dailey <[email protected]> = wrote: This just out from Google (thanks to one of the SVG enthusiasts at Ello = for letting me know). =20 Excerpt: =E2=80=9CWe value all of your feedback, and it's clear that = there are use cases serviced by SMIL that just don=E2=80=99t have = high-fidelity replacements yet. As a result, we=E2=80=99ve decided to = suspend our intent to deprecate and take smaller steps toward other = options.=E2=80=9D =20 https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/5o0yiO44= 0LM%5B126-150%5D =20 Delighted to hear this, Phil and Alex! =20 I thought that others here might be interested to know. =20 Now, if as Amelia points out[1], folks can work on convincing places = like FB, Google Plus, Twitter and Wikipedia that SVG in <img> adds value = to their platforms =E2=80=93 and is safe--, the web will become a richer = place. Am I correct in concluding from what I read at the links you = provided, Amelia, that SVG in <img> is, as much as anything on the web, = safe right now? =20 Smil(es) David =20 [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2016Aug/0030.html =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01D1FA64.ACEEA690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta = name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered = medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; 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Philip Rogers<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: SVG SMIL news from = Google<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi = David,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>As with all web things, the community matters and it = was the community that convinced IE to add SVG a few years back, and so = at least for now the deprecation is (as I said at TGW last year), like = Winston Churchill:-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>In any case, SVG in <img> definitely should be = supported, the lack of scripting mitigates most security = worries.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>In other news, FF48 shipped Web Animations which is = great news for folks wanting things to animate on a parallel thread to = avoid jank on the main thread, so perhaps you should start exploring = that API (admittedly JS, but I'd hope we can someday find a declarative = syntax that folks would be happy = implementing).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Alex<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 17 = August 2016 at 15:46, David Dailey <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This just = out from Google (thanks to one of the SVG enthusiasts at Ello for = letting me know).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Excerpt: = =E2=80=9C<span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;= background:white'>We value all of your feedback, and it's clear that = there are use cases serviced by SMIL that just don=E2=80=99t have = high-fidelity replacements yet. As a result, we=E2=80=99ve decided to = suspend our intent to deprecate and take smaller steps toward other = options.=E2=80=9D</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a = href=3D"https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/= 5o0yiO440LM%5B126-150%5D" = target=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/= blink-dev/5o0yiO440LM%5B126-150%5D</a><o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Delighted = to hear this, Phil and Alex!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I thought = that others here might be interested to know.<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Now, if as = Amelia points out[1], folks can work on convincing places like FB, = Google Plus, Twitter and Wikipedia that SVG in <img> adds value to = their platforms =E2=80=93 and is safe--, the web will become a richer = place. Am I correct in concluding from what I read at the links = you provided, Amelia, that SVG in <img> is, as much as anything on = the web, safe right now?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Smil(es)<o:p= ></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>David<o:p></= o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><= /o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>[1] <a = href=3D"https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2016Aug/0030.html" = target=3D"_blank">https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2016Aug/00= 30.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01D1FA64.ACEEA690--