Re: [Pixil-devel] Compile in cygwin + gcc 3.4.4

"Greg Haerr" <[email protected]> Sun, 28 May 2006 18:36:53 -0600
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Hope this helps... :

a & b: we've only tested the PIXIL build with the older
versions of the C++ compiler documented in the docs/
directory.  What version are you running?  There are
strange build problems with later versions of the compiler.

c. We suggest using the older version of the FLTK library
as documented in the build/doc instructions.  This is why
we included the FLEK source in the tree.

Regards,

Greg
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Green Wan=20
  To: [email protected]=20
  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:07 AM
  Subject: [Pixil-devel] Compile in cygwin + gcc 3.4.4


  Hi,

  =20

  I am try to build Pixil-1.2.3.tar.gz on my cygwin system. I've run =
nano-x on it successfully. The following is my setting and compiling =
error.

  =20

  --------< Setting of config in directory, pixil-1.2.3. >---------

  a.      MW_PREFIX=3D"/usr/src/Pixil/microwindows-0.90/src"

  b.       CONFIG_PIXILDT=3Dy

  c.        CONFIG_PIXILDT_FLTKDIR=3D"/usr/src/fltk-1.1.7"

  =20

  -------< Compile error after typing "make">------------------

  a.       The first part is like that can't link C++ library.

  =20

  make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pixil-1.2.3/libs'

  make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/pixil-1.2.3/libs/flek/src'

  gcc -Wl,-soname,`basename libflek.so` -shared -o libflek.so FDate.o =
FSocket.o FFile.o FVector.o FImage.o FSGI.o FPNM.o Fl_App_Window.o =
Fl_Better_Window.o Fl_Calendar.o Fl_Dockable_Window.o Fl_Stock.o =
Fl_Toggle_Node_Base.o Fl_Toggle_Node.o Fl_Toggle_Tree_Base.o =
Fl_Toggle_Tree.o Flv_CStyle.o Flv_Style.o Flv_List.o Flv_Table.o =
Flve_Check_Button.o Flve_Input.o Flve_Combo.o Fl_Time.o

  FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x952): undefined reference to `operator =
new(unsigned int)'

  FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x17dc): undefined reference to =
`std::ios_base::Init::Init()'

  FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x17f8): undefined reference to =
`std::ios_base::Init::~Init()'

  =20

  =20

  b.       the second part is like that can't link with FLTK library, is =
it?

  =20

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x1f): undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x4f): undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x7f): undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0xb0): undefined reference to =
`___gxx_personality_sj0'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x103): undefined reference =
to `operator new(unsigned int)'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x136): undefined reference =
to `Fl_Pack::Fl_Pack(int, int, int, int, char const*)'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x162): undefined reference =
to `operator new(unsigned int)'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x195): undefined reference =
to `Fl_Window::Fl_Window(int, int, int, int, char const*)'

  Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x1cb): undefined reference =
to `operator delete(void*)'

  =20

  Could anyone help me out?   =3DD

  =20

  Best regards,

  Green



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope this helps... :</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a &amp; b: we've only tested the PIXIL =
build with=20
the older</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>versions of the C++ compiler documented =
in the=20
docs/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directory.&nbsp; What version are you=20
running?&nbsp; There are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>strange build problems with later =
versions of the=20
compiler.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>c. We suggest using the older version =
of the FLTK=20
library</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as documented in the build/doc =
instructions.&nbsp;=20
This is why</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>we included the FLEK source in the=20
tree.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greg</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A [email protected] href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Green =
Wan</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
[email protected]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 26, 2006 4:07 =
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Pixil-devel] Compile =
in cygwin=20
  + gcc 3.4.4</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1 style=3D"LAYOUT-GRID:  18pt none">
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Hi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am try to build=20
  Pixil-1.2.3.tar.gz on my cygwin system. I=92ve run nano-x on it =
successfully.=20
  The following is my setting and compiling =
error.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--------&lt; Setting of =
config in=20
  directory, pixil-1.2.3. &gt;---------<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">a. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
MW_PREFIX=3D"/usr/src/Pixil/microwindows-0.90/src"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  CONFIG_PIXILDT=3Dy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
CONFIG_PIXILDT_FLTKDIR=3D"/usr/src/fltk-1.1.7"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></=
P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-------&lt; Compile error =
after=20
  typing =93make=94&gt;------------------<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 =
lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">a.<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
  lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The first =
part is like=20
  that can=92t link C++ library.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">make[1]: Entering =
directory=20
  `/usr/src/pixil-1.2.3/libs'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">make[2]: Entering =
directory=20
  `/usr/src/pixil-1.2.3/libs/flek/src'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">gcc -Wl,-soname,`basename =

  libflek.so` -shared -o libflek.so FDate.o FSocket.o FFile.o FVector.o =
FImage.o=20
  FSGI.o FPNM.o Fl_App_Window.o Fl_Better_Window.o Fl_Calendar.o=20
  Fl_Dockable_Window.o Fl_Stock.o Fl_Toggle_Node_Base.o Fl_Toggle_Node.o =

  Fl_Toggle_Tree_Base.o Fl_Toggle_Tree.o Flv_CStyle.o Flv_Style.o =
Flv_List.o=20
  Flv_Table.o Flve_Check_Button.o Flve_Input.o Flve_Combo.o=20
  Fl_Time.o<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x952):=20
  undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned=20
  int)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x17dc):=20
  undefined reference to=20
  `std::ios_base::Init::Init()'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">FDate.o:FDate.cxx:(.text+0x17f8):=20
  undefined reference to=20
  `std::ios_base::Init::~Init()'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
  style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 18pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 =
lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-list: Ignore">b.<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
  lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">the second =
part is like=20
  that can=92t link with FLTK library, is =
it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x1f):=20
  undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x4f):=20
  undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x7f):=20
  undefined reference to =
`Fl_Window::~Fl_Window()'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0xb0):=20
  undefined reference to =
`___gxx_personality_sj0'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x103):=20
  undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned=20
  int)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x136):=20
  undefined reference to `Fl_Pack::Fl_Pack(int, int, int, int, char=20
  const*)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x162):=20
  undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned=20
  int)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x195):=20
  undefined reference to `Fl_Window::Fl_Window(int, int, int, int, char=20
  const*)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Fl_App_Window.o:Fl_App_Window.cxx:(.text+0x1cb):=20
  undefined reference to `operator =
delete(void*)'<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Could anyone help me out? =

  &nbsp;&nbsp;=3DD<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best=20
  regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Green<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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