Re: [MACCAWS] been thinkin' ...

> > I was thinking along the lines of treating building a site the same
> > as building,
> > for instance, a shop. You have to pay attention to building
> > regulations, in some
> > countries you aren't allowed to make it inaccessible by law, etc.
>
> So, can we impose fines for using FrontPage?  ;)
>
Hell yea. ;-)

At least, one should anyways.  I like the anology, but it's more of an
anology for builders than for managers.  If you're trying to make a business
case, I don't think the building inspection process is really a good
anology.  Most building inspection is done to mantain public safetly
standards, to keep people from dying if there is an earthquake, fire, etc.

I don't know if we need an anology.  I mean, it's a good mechanism, but
IMHO, I think we'd be well off with a business case.

I'm a business manager, and I've got to put web standards into my
organization.  I know it's a good idea, but I'm in an MS shop, and everybody
thinks Microsoft's "standards" are web standards.  What do I need?  If I
raise the issue, I put my own ass on the line, and I am accountable now for
how this new "standards thread" turns out in the organization.  I need heavy
weaponry to protect my ass.

Seriously, isn't this why we need this "guide" for business folks.  This is
just one use case, but isn't corporate politics and lack of educational
awareness the reason for it?

1)  I need a very good business case.  I'm not talking about "because it
saves time and money," that's bullshit coming from one of the engineers from
a manager's perspective.  How much money and time is another matter.  You
see, most folks who are fighting for web standards are the UI guys, and they
don't often hold as much clout as the backend engineers.
2) We need a VERY compelling arguments for why web standards make sense in a
development project.  How does "using standards" change the development
cycle.  Certainly, if you do, you can no longer have your engineering staff
building your html.  You must follow a prototype model or you'll end up with
total shit at the end right?

Just some thoughts.  Too much coffee today folks. ;-)

Jonathan


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