Re: [MACCAWS] Nice example of a commercial CSS site

Seth Foley <[email protected]> Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.vkit
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Is this such a bad thing?

Until one can consistently and *easily* recreate table-based layouts in
CSS with semantic markup that describes it well, there must be
workarounds.  Some of them aren't pretty, like the voice-family hack. 
Some of them aren't elegant, like using DIVs in place of tables.  But
that doesn't mean we should judge a site solely based on whether its
markup is 100% pure XHTML 1.1 Strict.

Now, don't get me wrong.  I love standards, and I make every possible
effort to code to them.  But there are also times when a design is
approved that CSS just cannot do.  I've run into this while working for
my current company, actually.  I was told to develop a site that will
never work in Mozilla unless (a) I use HTML 4.0 and quirks mode, or (b)
wait for CSS 3 and hope that my recommendation for
background-attachment is accepted eventually.

The audience should always dictate a site's level of standards
compliance.  We don't know whether or not the webmaster has any choice
in the design of the site; he may be simply told to reproduce something
drawn up in Photoshop by a designer from a print background.  This
company might have a significant minority of customers that use a
specific browser version, and thus be catering to make their experience
better.

This site has obviously made an effort to code to the letter of the
law, if not the spirit.  If it validates (or comes close), who are we
to judge whether or not it sucks?

I say we send a note to the administrator and thank him for his support
of web standards, and drop a hint or two that we hope he'll support
more.  And leave the word "ghastly" out of it.

Seth Foley
[email protected]

$0.02 is your change.


--- Tim Beadle <[email protected]> wrote:
> Unfortunately, it's an example of someone replacing a ghastly table
> layout 
> with a ghastly CSS layout. There is no logical document structure,
> just lots 
> of divs and spans whose only purpose is presentation.
> 
> Tim

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