Re: [webmin-devel] CORRECTION - PROBLEM NOT SOLVED RE :StumblingForward RE: Getting Webmin to rununde rApacheforSolaris10-- Creating dent in desk from banging head.
"Jamie Cameron" <[email protected]> Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT)
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One thing to check is if CGI scripts are being executed by Apache properly and with the correct permissions. Try putting a file named test.cgi in the Webmin root directory (/opt/webmin) , and then accessing it in your browser. The script should contain : #!/bin/sh echo Content-type: text/plain echo "" id -a env And then post the output here. - Jamie On 17/Mar/2011 17:30 PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) <[email protected]> wrote .. > No luck with just the PERLLIB setting. PERL5LIB is set in the default environment, > so it is most likely still "active". Would that make a difference? I suppose it > probably would if webmin can't find the proper Perl. > > It tried the following in both files to "suppress" the PERL5LIB value: > > SetEnv PER5LIB "" > > But it still failed. > > Does anyone need to see something in particular to help me here? I'll provide > what I can. > > Michael Peoples > Senior Systems Manager > AT&T - ATTSI > Office: 614-789-8559 > Cell: 614-886-0923 > FAX: 614-789-8975 > [email protected] > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this email > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamie Cameron [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:22 PM > To: Webmin development list > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel]CORRECTION - PROBLEM NOT SOLVED RE: StumblingForward > RE: Getting Webmin to rununderApache forSolaris10-- Creating dent in desk from > banging head. > > Are you sure you want to set PERL5LIB as well? That might be overriding PERLLIB > , which > is set correctly. > > On 17/Mar/2011 06:31 PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) <[email protected]> wrote .. > > I jumped the gun on this one. My browser auto-filled another server with a similar > > name, and I failed to notice. > > > > The original problem still exists, with the same error messages as before. > > > > I placed the following lines in both the main httpd.conf file and the virtual > server > > definition file. > > > > SetEnv PERL5LIB "/usr/local/lib/perl5" > > SetEnv PERLLIB "/opt/webmin" > > > > What else might I try? > > > > Michael Peoples > > Senior Systems Manager > > AT&T - ATTSI > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > [email protected] > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this > email > > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have > reason > > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, > > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:10 AM > > To: Webmin development list > > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel] Stumbling Forward RE: Getting Webmin to rununderApache > > for Solaris10-- Creating dent in desk from banging head. > > > > That did the trick. You might wish to consider putting that in the documentation > > also. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Michael Peoples > > Senior Systems Manager > > AT&T - ATTSI > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > [email protected] > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this > email > > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have > reason > > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender > > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, > > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jamie Cameron [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:53 PM > > To: Webmin development list > > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel]Stumbling Forward RE: Getting Webmin to run underApache > > for Solaris10-- Creating dent in desk from banging head. > > > > Sounds like maybe the PERLLIB environment variable isn't set to the webmin > > root directory (typically /usr/libexec/webmin or /usr/share/webmin). You will > > need to set that in your apache config, like WEBMIN_CONFIG is defined. > > > > On 16/Mar/2011 13:57 PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) <[email protected]> wrote .. > > > I have the Apache server responding on port 10000. It even threw up a "Windows" > > > login dialog box (versus the standard Webmin login page).But now it's throwing > > > internal server (apache) errors: > > > > > > Undefined subroutine &WebminCore::init_config called at /dev/fs/4 line 7. > > > Premature end of script headers: index.cgi > > > > > > I can infer that Perl didn't effectively process the "use WebminCore;" line > properly, > > > but that may not be the issue. This message seems very familiar to me for > some > > > reason. > > > > > > Running index.cgi at the command line produces the following error: > > > > > > # perl -w ./index.cgi > > > Name "WebminCore::STEST" used only once: possible typo at web-lib-funcs.pl > line > > > 1898. > > > Name "main::remote_user" used only once: possible typo at ./index.cgi line > 73. > > > WEBMIN_CONFIG not set at web-lib-funcs.pl line 3943. > > > Use of uninitialized value $callpkg in concatenation (.) or string at web-lib-funcs.pl > > > line 9231. > > > Use of uninitialized value $initial_module_name in string eq at web-lib-funcs.pl > > > line 8200. > > > Use of uninitialized value in string eq at web-lib-funcs.pl line 8200. > > > > > > I would sort of expect that given that key environment variables are not set. > > > > > > In both the httpd.conf file and the separate included file containing the Webmin > > > virtual server configuration, I have the four SetEnv statements. > > > > > > I'm running Perl 5.12.0 and Webmin 1.530 > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > Michael Peoples > > > Senior Systems Manager > > > AT&T - ATTSI > > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > > [email protected] > > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > > > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this > > email > > > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have > > reason > > > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the > sender > > > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, > > > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > prohibited." > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jamie Cameron [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:15 PM > > > To: Webmin development list > > > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel]Getting Webmin to run under Apache for Solaris10-- > > Creating > > > dent in desk from banging head. > > > > > > On 14/Mar/2011 16:57 PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) <[email protected]> wrote .. > > > > Jamie, > > > > > > > > As always, I very much appreciate your prompt responses and help, as I know > > you > > > > have another life creating other great software. > > > > > > > > If I missed, in the documentation, the need to put that directive in the > main > > > (global) > > > > Apache configuration, I apologize. I really do RTFM before I bother busy > people. > > > > If I didn't miss it, perhaps if should be added. I would be happy to make > > updates > > > > to the documents, particularly in areas where I was confused, but I have > no > > access. > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > The docs didn't mention that as most users who run webmin under apache do it > > because > > > they want or need to use port 80, which apache is already listening on. I will > > > update > > > the docs to mention this. > > > > > > > Your question is a good one. I was going to try it merely to see if there > > was > > > > an appreciable difference in performance. What I can tell you within the > bounds > > > > of proprietary information is, and you may have guessed some of this from > previous > > > > questions, I (we) are using Webmin on a single server in an attempt to provide > > > > a front end for Enterprise management. > > > > > > > > We have come a long way and my feeling now is that it was the right decision. > > > > I believe we can leverage existing Webmin code and modules in an "abstracted" > > > manner > > > > where the interface is centrally located on an extremely secure server with > > secure > > > > access to large numbers of servers. > > > > > > > > So, I'm not suggesting there were any problems with miniserv.pl. In fact, > > there's > > > > no inherent reason I couldn't use it to throw up any "web" language I choose. > > > > > > > > Sorry about being a bit fuzzy on the details, but I assure you that I will > > make > > > > every effort to publish what I can and still keep my job (the mortgage company > > > > is very fond of that monthly payment). > > > > > > > > I'll put that directive in and run some comparative tests. > > > > > > Ok, let us know how the performance tests work out ... > > > > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > Again, thanks for all of the work you've done to help the larger IT community. > > > > > > > > Michael Peoples > > > > Senior Systems Manager > > > > AT&T - ATTSI > > > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > > > > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this > > > email > > > > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have > > > reason > > > > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the > > sender > > > > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, > > > > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > prohibited." > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jamie Cameron [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:52 PM > > > > To: Webmin development list > > > > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel]Getting Webmin to run under Apache for Solaris10 > > -- > > > > Creating dent in desk from banging head. > > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > > > Did you add the line : > > > > > > > > Listen 10000 > > > > > > > > to your Apache config? Without this, Apache won't even accept connections > on > > > > port 10000. > > > > > > > > Regarding the speed of Apache vs miniserv, even though Apache is far better > > webserver > > > > in general and written in a faster language (C), miniserv may actually be > more > > > > efficient > > > > for running Webmin as it can execute the perl CGI scripts within the same > process, > > > > without needing to launch a perl interpreter for each request as Apache would. > > > > > > > > Could you tell us more about the kind of app you are running, and the performance > > > > issues you are seeing with regular Webmin? > > > > > > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > > On 14/Mar/2011 12:38 PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) <[email protected]> wrote .. > > > > > Reports are, there are advantages (speed at least) to running it under > Apache. > > > > > > > > > > I hope I'm not telling you something you already know, I apologize if I > am, > > > but > > > > > the miniserv.pl (the Webmin web server) is essentially a looping Perl script. > > > > > Rather clever in my opinion and certainly much lighter than a full Apache > > implementation. > > > > > > > > > > In our particular case, we're doing some unusual things with Webmin, so > I'm > > > trying > > > > > to squeeze every ounce of performance out of it. > > > > > > > > > > Michael Peoples > > > > > Senior Systems Manager > > > > > AT&T - ATTSI > > > > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > > > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > > > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, > > > > > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom > this > > > > email > > > > > is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise > have > > > > reason > > > > > to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify > the > > > sender > > > > > and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, > retention, > > > > > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > > > prohibited." > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:33 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: [webmin-devel] Getting Webmin to run under Apache for Solaris > > > 10 > > > > -- > > > > > Creating dent in desk from banging head. > > > > > > > > > > Why not just run it the way it is supposed to run on port 10000? > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > On 14/03/2011 2:25 PM, PEOPLES, MICHAEL P (ATTSI) wrote: > > > > > > I have spent days trying to get Webmin to run under Apache, but to no > > > > > > avail. Despite attempting to follow both follow the instructions to > the > > > > > > letter, as well as interpret them as best I could, it doesn't work. > I'm > > > > > > sure it works, because Jamie says it does, and Jamie knows what he's > > > > > > talking about. The problem is me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to run it as a virtual server on a Solaris 10 box running > > > > > > Apache 2.2.16. I did the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > Created a virtual server > > > > > > > > > > > > <VirtualHost _default_:10000> > > > > > > > > > > > > ServerName myserver.att.com:10000 > > > > > > > > > > > > DocumentRoot /opt/webmin > > > > > > > > > > > > ServerAdmin [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ErrorLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/error_log" > > > > > > > > > > > > TransferLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/access_log" > > > > > > > > > > > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/apache2_2_16/cgi-bin/" > > > > > > > > > > > > ScriptAlias /script-cgi-bin/ "/usr/apache2_2_16/htdocs/scripts/" > > > > > > > > > > > > SSLEngine on > > > > > > SSLCertificateFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.crt" > > > > > > SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.key" > > > > > > SSLCACertificateFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.CA.root.crt" > > > > > > SSLCACertificateFile > > > > > > "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.intermediate.crt" > > > > > > > > > > > > <FilesMatch "\.(cgi|shtml|phtml|php)$"> > > > > > > SSLOptions +StdEnvVars > > > > > > </FilesMatch> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Directory "/usr/apache2_2_16/cgi-bin"> > > > > > > SSLOptions +StdEnvVars > > > > > > </Directory> > > > > > > > > > > > > BrowserMatch ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown > > > > > > downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > CustomLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/ssl_request_log" "%t > %h > > > > > > %{SSL_PROTOCOL}x %{SSL_CIPHER}x \"%r\" %b" > > > > > > > > > > > > <Directory "/opt/webmin"> > > > > > > allow from all > > > > > > Options +Indexes > > > > > > AuthName Webmin > > > > > > AuthType basic > > > > > > AuthUserFile /etc/webmin/htusers > > > > > > require valid-user > > > > > > </Directory> > > > > > > > > > > > > </VirtualHost> > > > > > > > > > > > > Added AddHandler directive to MAIN Apache configuration section > > > > > > > > > > > > AddHandler cgi-script .cgi > > > > > > > > > > > > Added index.cgi directive to MAIN Apache configuration section > > > > > > > > > > > > DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi > > > > > > > > > > > > Added the following directives to MAIN Apache configuration section > > > > > > > > > > > > SetEnv WEBMIN_CONFIG /etc/webmin > > > > > > SetEnv WEBMIN_VAR /var/webmin > > > > > > SetEnv SERVER_ROOT /opt/webmin > > > > > > SetEnv MINISERV_CONFIG /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf > > > > > > > > > > > > Added the following directives to MAIN Apache configuration section > > > > > > > > > > > > <Directory "/opt/webmin"> > > > > > > allow from all > > > > > > Options +Indexes > > > > > > AuthName Webmin > > > > > > AuthType basic > > > > > > AuthUserFile /etc/webmin/htusers > > > > > > require valid-user > > > > > > </Directory> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /etc/webmin/htusers file setup > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, it's not clear what is being requested here. I created a file > > > > > > with each of the users in it, one to a line, like the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > root > > > > > > user1 > > > > > > user2 > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried using htpasswd to create a file called /etc/webmin/htusers, > > > > > > but that also did not change things. > > > > > > > > > > > > To be frank, I'm not sure what should be in this file. Explicit > > > > > > examples would be helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ran the ownership and permission attribute change commands > > > > > > > > > > > > chown -R root:root /opt/webmin > > > > > > chmod -R 6755 /opt/webmin > > > > > > > > > > > > > From directory /opt/webmin, ran the following command > > > > > > > > > > > > find . -name "*.cgi" -o -name "*.pl" | perl perlpath.pl "/usr/bin/perl > > > > > > -U" - > > > > > > > > > > > > Configure Webmin to use the 'Default Webmin Theme' > > > > > > > > > > > > There's nothing I could do here. The only theme I have is the "blue" > > > > > > theme. There is nothing in the Webmin Solaris package that might be > > > > > > considered a "default theme". > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried it putting all (or most) of the above within the virtual > > > > > > host definition: > > > > > > > > > > > > <VirtualHost _default_:10000> > > > > > > > > > > > > ServerName myserver.att.com:10000 > > > > > > > > > > > > DocumentRoot /opt/webmin > > > > > > > > > > > > ServerAdmin [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ErrorLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/error_log" > > > > > > > > > > > > TransferLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/access_log" > > > > > > > > > > > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/apache2_2_16/cgi-bin/" > > > > > > > > > > > > ScriptAlias /script-cgi-bin/ "/usr/apache2_2_16/htdocs/scripts/" > > > > > > > > > > > > SSLEngine on > > > > > > SSLCertificateFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.crt" > > > > > > SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.key" > > > > > > SSLCACertificateFile "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.CA.root.crt" > > > > > > SSLCACertificateFile > > > > > > "/usr/apache2_2_16/conf/myserver.intermediate.crt" > > > > > > > > > > > > AddHandler cgi-script .cgi > > > > > > > > > > > > <FilesMatch "\.(cgi|shtml|phtml|php)$"> > > > > > > SSLOptions +StdEnvVars > > > > > > </FilesMatch> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Directory "/usr/apache2_2_16/cgi-bin"> > > > > > > SSLOptions +StdEnvVars > > > > > > </Directory> > > > > > > > > > > > > BrowserMatch ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown > > > > > > downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > CustomLog "/usr/apache2_2_16/logs/ssl_request_log" "%t > %h > > > > > > %{SSL_PROTOCOL}x %{SSL_CIPHER}x \"%r\" %b" > > > > > > > > > > > > <Directory "/opt/webmin"> > > > > > > allow from all > > > > > > Options +Indexes > > > > > > AuthName Webmin > > > > > > AuthType basic > > > > > > AuthUserFile /etc/webmin/htusers > > > > > > require valid-user > > > > > > </Directory> > > > > > > > > > > > > SetEnv WEBMIN_CONFIG "/etc/webmin" > > > > > > SetEnv WEBMIN_VAR "/var/webmin" > > > > > > SetEnv SERVER_ROOT "/opt/webmin" > > > > > > SetEnv MINISERV_CONFIG "/etc/webmin/miniserv.conf" > > > > > > </VirtualHost> > > > > > > > > > > > > I restarted Apache after each change, but never got the Webmin site or > > > > > > any error messages even referring to it. Nothing was listening on port > > > > > > 10000. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also tried the "Apache In A Sub-Directory" method, but it didn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I fire up Webmin as I normally would, it works. I just can't get > it > > > > > > to work under Apache. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the long e-mail, but thanks for any help anyone can offer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Peoples > > > > > > Senior Systems Manager > > > > > > AT&T - ATTSI > > > > > > Office: 614-789-8559 > > > > > > Cell: 614-886-0923 > > > > > > FAX: 614-789-8975 > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are > > > > > > confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or > > > > > > entity to whom this email is addressed. 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