Re: [webmin-devel] New joinee to webmin-dev

"PEOPLES, MICHAEL P" <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:50:09 +0000
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You can find the various mailing lists and support forums on SourceForge.ne=
t.  Search for "Webmin" and you will find not only the Webmin support commu=
nity, but other Webmin modules that may interest you.

As to you specific requirement, I always look through the Webmin modules un=
til I find the feature I am looking for.  So you should find a module that =
has the type of progress bar you are looking for.  Then, you will need to l=
ook at the page source to find the subroutines being called.

Remember, within a module (which nearly always sits in its own directory of=
f of the Webmin base directory (e.g., /opt/webmin), will be the index.cgi f=
ile.  This is where everything starts.  As I stated before, you will then h=
ave to trace through the code to the subroutines you need.

Jamie built the subroutines in the various APIs in a manner that allows you=
 to call them directly with the correct parameters.  You must also referenc=
e them with "require" or "use" commands.  As always, look to the existing c=
ode for examples of how others have done what you are doing.

If you cannot find the progress bar functionality you are looking for withi=
n Webmin, there is no reason you can't get it elsewhere.  For example, if y=
ou find a JavaScript progress bar that you like, then you can embed that co=
de within your page, pretty much as it exists on the page where you found i=
t.  However, you will need to get the underlying framework that supports it=
 (e.g., JQuery, Dojo, etc.) and install it on your server.  You will then n=
eed to modify the references in the <script> tags to point to the library.

If you have identified a specific progress bar you like, tell me where it i=
s and I'll see what I can do to help you.

Michael Peoples (mp4783)
Senior Systems Manager
AT&T - ATTSI
Office/Cell:  614-886-0923
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: Agnello George [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:27 AM
To: Webmin development list
Subject: Re: [webmin-devel] New joinee to webmin-dev

Thanks a lot Michael  for the  for all the tips ,  i am basically a systems=
 engineer  and know a little of perl scripting ...

One specific query i am searching today is , how to use a progress-bar whil=
e uploading  uploading .. i use template ::Toolkit.

Second is what are the   other maillinglist for webmin

Agnello
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:43 PM, PEOPLES, MICHAEL P <[email protected]<mailto:=
[email protected]>> wrote:
Welcome, Agnello.

This list is not very active, in my experience, so you might also consider =
joining some other Webmin related lists also.

I am in a somewhat similar situation to you, but I've been working with the=
 Webmin code for about a year.  My Perl experience is still rather limited.

What you will find is that Webmin is a superb example of tight, efficient c=
oding.  Jamie Cameron, I grovel before his magnificence, has created a syst=
em that allows you to abstract most common administrative functions into a =
common, user-friendly interface.  Webmin provides an "ecosystem" from which=
 you can build additional modules to meet your specific needs.

That said, it will take you some time to figure out how it all goes togethe=
r.  Because Webmin code is based up on the use of subroutines contained wit=
hin a few major API files (e.g., Webmin.cor, ui-lib.pl<http://ui-lib.pl>, e=
tc.), you have to follow references through multiple files to understand th=
e structure of a particular module.

The best way to understand this would be to first read the documentation.  =
This will take time, and there is no real "programming" book for Webmin.  Y=
ou should work through the module creation example and examine the API libr=
aries.  What you will find is, there are pre-built subroutines and variable=
s for nearly all required graphical elements and most "housekeeping" functi=
ons (e.g., figuring out who the logged in user is).

I would also look at a simple module and breakdown its structure and progra=
m control flow.  If you don't already use Firefox and Firebug, I would sugg=
est trying them.

If you have specific questions, I'll try to help you, as others have helped=
 me, with my own limited knowledge.

Michael Peoples (mp4783)
Senior Systems Manager
AT&T - ATTSI
Office/Cell:  614-886-0923<tel:614-886-0923>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: Agnello George [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:agnello.dsouza=
@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]=
forge.net>
Subject: [webmin-devel] New joinee to webmin-dev

Hi

I am a new joinee to webmin-dev, i have written a few perl cgi programs and=
 consider my self a learner in perl programming,   my main reason for joini=
ng this list is to to understand the framework in which the webmin is writt=
en and to improve my perl programming skills by referring to already existi=
ng well written code. I would love to contribute  but i would have to come =
up to speed for that and that might take some time . Thought this is nice w=
ay to introduce my self,  its a honor to be in this list .

Thank you



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">You can find the various mailing lists and support forums on =
SourceForge.net.&nbsp; Search for &#8220;Webmin&#8221; and you will find no=
t only the Webmin support community, but other Webmin modules that
 may interest you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">As to you specific requirement, I always look through the Web=
min modules until I find the feature I am looking for.&nbsp; So you should =
find a module that has the type of progress bar you
 are looking for.&nbsp; Then, you will need to look at the page source to f=
ind the subroutines being called.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">Remember, within a module (which nearly always sits in its ow=
n directory off of the Webmin base directory (e.g., /opt/webmin), will be t=
he index.cgi file.&nbsp; This is where everything starts.&nbsp;
 As I stated before, you will then have to trace through the code to the su=
broutines you need.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">Jamie built the subroutines in the various APIs in a manner t=
hat allows you to call them directly with the correct parameters.&nbsp; You=
 must also reference them with &#8220;require&#8221; or &#8220;use&#8221; c=
ommands.&nbsp;
 As always, look to the existing code for examples of how others have done =
what you are doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">If you cannot find the progress bar functionality you are loo=
king for within Webmin, there is no reason you can&#8217;t get it elsewhere=
.&nbsp; For example, if you find a JavaScript progress bar
 that you like, then you can embed that code within your page, pretty much =
as it exists on the page where you found it.&nbsp; However, you will need t=
o get the underlying framework that supports it (e.g., JQuery, Dojo, etc.) =
and install it on your server.&nbsp; You will
 then need to modify the references in the &lt;script&gt; tags to point to =
the library.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9">If you have identified a specific progress bar you like, tell=
 me where it is and I&#8217;ll see what I can do to help you.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:#0707B9"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 14, 2011 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Webmin development list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [webmin-devel] New joinee to webmin-dev<o:p></o:p></spa=
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color:blue">Thanks a lot Michael&nbsp; for the&nbsp;
</span>for all the tips ,&nbsp; i am basically a systems engineer&nbsp; and=
 know a little of perl scripting ...
<br>
<br>
One specific query i am searching today is , how to use a progress-bar whil=
e uploading&nbsp; uploading .. i use template ::Toolkit.
<br>
<br>
Second is what are the&nbsp;&nbsp; other maillinglist for webmin <br>
<br>
Agnello<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 7:43 PM, PEOPLES, MICHAEL P =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o=
:p></p>
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Welcome, Agnello.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
This list is not very active, in my experience, so you might also consider =
joining some other Webmin related lists also.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
I am in a somewhat similar situation to you, but I&#8217;ve been working wi=
th the Webmin code for about a year.&nbsp; My Perl experience
 is still rather limited.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
What you will find is that Webmin is a superb example of tight, efficient c=
oding.&nbsp; Jamie Cameron, I grovel before his magnificence,
 has created a system that allows you to abstract most common administrativ=
e functions into a common, user-friendly interface.&nbsp; Webmin provides a=
n &#8220;ecosystem&#8221; from which you can build additional modules to me=
et your specific needs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
That said, it will take you some time to figure out how it all goes togethe=
r.&nbsp; Because Webmin code is based up on the use of
 subroutines contained within a few major API files (e.g., Webmin.cor, <a h=
ref=3D"http://ui-lib.pl" target=3D"_blank">
ui-lib.pl</a>, etc.), you have to follow references through multiple files =
to understand the structure of a particular module.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
The best way to understand this would be to first read the documentation.&n=
bsp; This will take time, and there is no real &#8220;programming&#8221;
 book for Webmin.&nbsp; You should work through the module creation example=
 and examine the API libraries.&nbsp; What you will find is, there are pre-=
built subroutines and variables for nearly all required graphical elements =
and most &#8220;housekeeping&#8221; functions (e.g., figuring
 out who the logged in user is).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
I would also look at a simple module and breakdown its structure and progra=
m control flow.&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t already use Firefox
 and Firebug, I would suggest trying them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
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lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
If you have specific questions, I&#8217;ll try to help you, as others have =
helped me, with my own limited knowledge.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:#0707B9">=
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t">Hi <br>
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I am a new joinee to webmin-dev, i have written a few perl cgi programs and=
 consider my self a learner in perl programming, &nbsp; my main reason for =
joining this list is to to understand the framework in which the webmin is =
written and to improve my perl programming
 skills by referring to already existing well written code. I would love to=
 contribute&nbsp; but i would have to come up to speed for that and that mi=
ght take some time . Thought this is nice way to introduce my self,&nbsp; i=
ts a honor to be in this list .
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