Official Rubicode Statement Regarding EOGenerator and Leopard

"Doug McClure" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.webobjects.wonder-disc,gmane.comp.web.webobjects.devel,gmane.comp.web.webobjects.woproject.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi all.  I apologize for sending this to so many groups, but I wanted as
many to get this information as possible.

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On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

Is a Leopard version coming?

Thanks, Kieran


A very good question and one we've been thinking about a lot recently, so
here is the Officical Rubicode Statement about EOGenerator and Leopard.

EOGenerator (and EOReporter and DBEdit for that matter) are based on the
Objective-C version of EOF.  By using Objective-C, we were able to extend
many EOF classes so that we could build our tools easily, and in
EOGenerator's case, to add additional methods that were easily accessible in
your templates..

As of WebObjects 5, Apple effectively EOL'ed the Obj-C EOF for public
consumption, but because EOModeler and WebObjectsBuilder depended on those
frameworks, they had to continue delivering them as private frameworks,
which we gladly took advantage of.  However, we are well aware that as of
5.4, Apple has officially deprecated those applications as well as the
private frameworks that we depended on.

It IS still possible to run these tools if you obtain the private frameworks
and add them to your system from the previous developer release.  We have
not tested this ourselves, but we have heard that it worked fine.

Currently we have no plans to make a version of DBEdit to work under 5.4.
 There is too much code, and too many Objective-C tricks required to think
about a Java version at this time.

As for EOGenerator, that is a bit more difficult question.  We realize that
EOGenerator is an extremely popular tool among the WebObjects community, and
we would very much like to continue to support the tool, although neither
Carl nor myself are working with WebObjects professionally at the moment.
 We are left with two choices:  recreate the necessary Objective-C classes
we need to support the model or rewrite the application in Java.  The first
is not ideal as that places more work on our shoulders to stay in sync with
the any changes to EOModel, and the latter would mean would sacrificing
template compatibility to go with an existing Java product (most likely
Velocity).  Either solution would certainly take a bit of time.

If we do redo EOGenerator, we will also redo EOReporter as the majority of
the code base is the same.

Now Mike Schrag apparently has a EOGenerator replacement that he is looking
to add to WOLips.  That is a completely separate project that we have no
information about at this time, but we have every reason to believe that
this will be a very useful tool that may remove any need for us to redevelop
ours.  And if that happens we'll be content to hand over the EOGenerator
title to someone else, although we will miss it.

We have greatly enjoyed serving the community with these tools for the past
7 years and are quite impressed with how many of you have made EOGenerator
part of your projects.  We are looking forward to what Mike has to offer and
will be exploring what we can add to the community also.

Any questions feel free to direct to [email protected]

Thank you all,

Carl Lindberg
Doug McClure

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