Re: Reasons *not* to open source WebObjects?

On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Marc Manthey wrote:

> hello ,
> i am just reading  and as a newbie to WO, but 10 years of apple use i  
> can
> acknowledge with the  following statements.
>
> On 31. Mar 2005, at 20:54 Uhr, Lucas Rockwell wrote:
>>  I don't want great technologies to be used as secret weapons to  
>> outdo the competition. I want them to be used for the betterment of  
>> the community.
>
> i am glad  that i found  it;)
>
> On 31. Mar 2005, at 20:09 Uhr, Georg Tuparev wrote:
>>  And please do not think of showing Wonder to a WO developers who  
>> have less then 3 years of WO experience - they will be completely  
>> lost and frustrated.
>
> absolutly  true, i just want  an adaptor for my apache, i dont want   
> to understand
> the whole  technologie
>
It is not called iWebDeveloper for a reason.  WebObjects is not one of  
Apple's typical end-user applications.  It is a tool for professional  
developers to make robust, enterprise level applications.  Not wanting  
to understand the whole technology is not going to get you very far.

On top of that, you wanted an adaptor for Apache 2 if I recall  
correctly.  That is not standard and not supported.  It should not be  
surprising that doing something that is not standard or supported is  
more effort that clicking an icon or two.  The stuff in Wonder is  
freely provided and worth the effort to get to know.  Yes, it is large  
and it does take effort.  The adaptor build process is documented as  
part of the WO install, but you do have to look for it.


> On 01. Apr 2005, at 19:32 Uhr, Ondra Cada wrote:
>> Never mind this mail, I just had to let some steam off :) Just a few  
>> days ago I've lost a task since the customer demanded "dotnet or  
>> perhaps PHP" (which quotation shows their level of understanding  
>> pretty nice, I guess)...
>
> i found  out  that WO has  abilitys that are impossible with
> other languages like php and others , but do i really read a book
> to install and make  it  work?
>
Yes, at least some small ones that Apple provides as the WO  
documentation.


> when i see what has been done to make  it  work,
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/kelleherk/iblog/C1216817469/E322520588/ 
> index.html
>
> i am really shocked :-(
>
That is mostly for mySQL migration and xCode hacks that are nice but  
not required.

OK, I feel better now.  :-)

Chuck

-- 
Practical WebObjects - a book for intermediate WebObjects developers  
who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects, or those  
who are trying to solve specific application development problems.
http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects