Re: Views on WOLips vs Xcode

Mike Schrag <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.webobjects.general
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As far as learning curve, I think a lot of it is just Eclipse  
learning curve -- it definitely has a unique way of handling  
developer workflow.  Once you're comfortable with Eclipse in general,  
though, I think you'll find WOLips to make total sense.  I didn't  
have any trouble (that I can remember) using WOLips coming from a  
background where I used Eclipse for several years (well, save the  
occasional WOLips bug -- but the latest cvs builds fix almost all the  
things I used to run into).  From my perspective, Xcode has the  
steeper learning curve ...  I can never find anything I'm looking for  
-- which is pretty much what Eclipse newbies says, too, so I think  
it's just what you're familiar with.

If you do go the WOLips way, I would recommend getting on the WOLips  
mailing list and definitely file bugs/complaints/requests.  And Ye  
Newe WOLips Wiki -- http://objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Home .

ms

On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:

> I mainly use Xcode, not Eclipse, although I have both installed -  
> my motivation being that I teach the Apple WO class every few  
> weeks, and I want to stay very close to the standard used for the  
> course. If you decide to use Xcode, it is currently better to use  
> Xcode 2.0 rather than 2.1, because of the bugs related to  
> WOBuilder, as Mike and Geoff have noted.  It is also conceivable  
> that, at some point in the future, Apple will do something that  
> gives Xcode a compelling advantage over Xcode - I am not suggesting  
> that they will, just that it is prudent to consider that.  If so,  
> it won't be for some time.
>
> If you are already familiar and comfortable with Eclipse, stick  
> with it.  WOLips has its own, steeper, learning curve, compared to  
> Xcode, but it has a lot of advantages to compensate for that.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 15 Jul 2005, at 14:15, Cedarstone wrote:
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am just at the early stages of learning and using WO.  I have  
>> started down the WO route not least because it now comes with  
>> XCode 2.1
>>
>> However my experience is with Eclipse and would prefer to use  
>> Eclipse where possible.  As a WO newbie I would be grateful for  
>> your views as to whether I should abandon Eclipse in favor of  
>> XCode or should I go with WOLips and Eclipse.  In particular I am  
>> worried that further integration of WO into XCode may force  
>> Eclipse developers to make the switch.  Does WOLips have a future?
>>
>> Advice at this early stage would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Giles
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