Re: Ruby on Rails vs. WebObjects

Hi,

for anybody interested in Ajax integration with a Java servlet environment
(I know WO is not a standard servlet application, but it can be deployed as
such, if I get it right) I suggest taking a look a the DWR project (
http://getahead.ltd.uk/dwr/).

It allows JS code to call "directly" java methods on the server. "directly"
means that the DWR framework takes care of dynamically generating the JS
file from the java code, does all the marshalling, etc...

Boundled with the MochiKit framework, JS coding is not so bad.

Best regards,

Giulio Cesare Solaroli


On 3/1/06, Georg Tuparev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We use Ruby, but we use no Rails.
>
> We will continue using Ruby, but we will not start using Rails (after
> evaluating it). Rails has nothing comparable to EOF, and as it is
> currently being designed, it will not evolve into this direction. So
> this is no go for us.
>
> So, what we do with AJAX. First we pray Apple fixes the WO design
> making it more XML and JS friendly. Second, we add our own WO/AJAX
> support when we need. I would love to donate our additions (some of
> them are really cool), but working on the largest dutch banking
> project in a decade or so is not exactly open-source promoting. But
> when phase 1 is in production, I would be glad to share our experience.
>
> And before you start asking, yes, WO is well, and in a good shape,
> and banks here do not care if the system that is expected to handle
> €5x10^9 worth of transactions during the first year it is done in WO
> or any other technology as far as it works...
>
> gt
>
> P.S. What is exactly AJAX? Bunch of old technologies wrapped in fancy
> acronym and a lot of hype. It is fine to use AJAX-like techniques
> together with WO, but most of the existing AJAX frameworks are not
> applicable for us neither as source code, nor as design... So my
> first advise here - do not mix oranges and bananas! Learnt about AJAX
> from a book like the Pragmatic AJAX, but do your stuff enhancing WO
> and not bending it...
>
> On Feb 28, 2006, at 6:16 PM, David LeBer wrote:
>
> > My take after hearing his comparison is that if you really need
> > AJAX and don't want to try implementing that support in WO then you
> > might want to look at R on R. Other than that, I couldn't see any
> > compelling reason to switch. Other than it being open-source and
> > having the hype that is - not that those may not be compelling
> > reasons for some :-)
>
> Georg Tuparev
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