RE: Apple, Microsoft, Java and the Web?

Different markets.  Microsoft sells a lot into corporations.  The company I
work for does .NET and Java stuff for major financial institutions, who only
want to invest in a platform if it's backed by Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, etc.
or in some cases open source tools.  Apple's market is consumers and
"creative professionals," ie: not people who build much custom software.

WebObjects is a great technology, but it got steamrolled by J2EE garbage
like EJB and JSP, and anyway, selling Apple products into a large
corporation for an custom application is a non-starter.  It's one thing to
buy some Macs for their graphic designers, but invest a few hundred thousand
or million developing a custom application on top of an Apple product?  Ha,
no way, Amigo.  Meanwhile the gap between WebObjects and open source
solutions like the combination of Spring, Tapestry, and Hibernate or Cayenne
is narrowing.

It's a damn shame, but Apple seems to have made the decision that they're
going to continue to use WebObjects for internal development of the iTunes
store, etc., and that's about it.  Other than the occasional bug fix it's
been years since they've actually added anything to the product.  I didn't
attend, or even look at the agenda, but was there even any discussion of
WebObjects at WWDC?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:11 AM
To: Mac OS X Talk; WebObjects-Talk Talk
Subject: Apple, Microsoft, Java and the Web?


Howdy All,

Why is it (if it is the case) that Microsoft sees Java as a threat but Apple
doesn't?

Considering they both make desktop software platforms ... (Java sucks is not
a good answer ;-)

Why is it that Microsoft sees value in its Web platform (ASP.Net) and Apple
doesn't (WO)?

Apple seems (just guessing) to be offloading their Web platform to Java/Ruby
...

Microsoft puts a lot of effort into their Web development platform.

Just interested in your thoughts.

Cheers,
Ashley.

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Ashley Aitken
Perth, Western Australia
mrhatken at mac dot com
Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)



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