Re: WebObject Support on the development tools

>>> Following the link on the wocommunity Web site related to Apple =20
>>> support for WebObjects, I wonder what does the following sentence =20=

>>> mean, now that the Apple development tools are deprecated?
>>>
>>> Support in key areas
>>> (...)
>>> =EF=BF=BC WebObjects development tools
>>> (...)
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>> It means Eclipse is a much better development environment for Java =20=

>> then XCode, so Apple bowed to the inevitable and now supports =20
>> WOLips as the development tool for WebObjects and is even =20
>> sponsoring it to some extent.
>
> It means Eclipse proponents are very vocal, dislike beauty and =20
> elegance, and think they could talk in the name of the entire WO =20
> community.



  I dunno if I'm a _proponent_ of Eclipse, I was just countering the =20
implied FUD because I'm not sure the fact that WO has been divorced =20
from XCode means anything one way or another. I think rather that =20
WOLips+Eclipse surpassed Apple's tools awhile ago. That's mostly due =20
to neglect on Apple's part.

I actually hated Eclipse when I first started with it. I would still =20
never use it for Cocoa programming. Even now, I'm not sure I *like* =20
Eclipse. Pretty much all of our developers have ended up having to =20
have two monitors because of Eclipse's insistence on taking over the =20
screen.

   But Eclipse is really, really tuned for Java development. There's a =20=

whole bunch of stuff in Java that sounds easy (like setting up a =20
classpath/package/etc.) but that turns out to be really tedious as =20
your project gets large. Eclipse deals with all that tediousness, and =20=

it really, really, groks java. The fact that I can select a method =20
call in the middle of the code and command click it and it will =20
correctly figure out what class that variable is and take me to the =20
definition is very, very cool. Xcode can do some of that stuff for =20
Objective-C, but for Java, not so much.

  For the same reason, if you're using Ruby on Rails, you have to use =20=

TextMate.

  Pierce