Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

Mike Schrag <[email protected]> Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:21:18 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.webobjects.general
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I was just in the midst of typing the same thing. Almost all of our new =
deployments will be on Linux in a VM infrastructure. And I don't need =
Apple to provide me anything. I can't really think of a WO enhancement =
that can't be done by a 3rd party. IMO, for the past 5 years, the =
community has brought far more interesting enhancements than Apple has. =
What are you expecting Apple to provide to you that Wonder doesn't =
provide to you RIGHT NOW, in an open development process.

ms

On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else =
says or does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, =
it's not like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.
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> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are =
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> Cheers, Anjo
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> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
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>> If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, =
to the community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and =
Linux. We should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do =
anything for us in the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only =
developing and deploying on Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that =
5.4.3 will be the last version we will ever see...
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>> On 2009-11-24, at 10:19 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
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>>> 1) The customer sometimes is willing to compromise and give you a =
Linux box ... deployment on Linux is as easy as Mac more-or-less. So, if =
they won't let you use Mac, ask if you can use Linux.... and setup =
CentOS or RHEL on it.
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>>> 2) Project Wonder has source for Adaptors. I see IIS adaptor source =
in there. No idea how good it is:
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>>> 	/Wonder/Utilities/Adaptors/IIS/
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>>> HTH, Kieran
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>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Ralph Scheuer wrote:
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>>>> Hello everybody,
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>>>> due to the fact that some of our customers use Windows servers, I =
would be interested how others deploy their WO apps on Windows these =
days...
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>>>> The wiki only refers to Apache when it comes to WO 5.4 on Windows =
and does not mention IIS...
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>>>> However, some customers need specific IIS features like =
Single-Sign-On via ActiveDirectory or do not want another web server for =
political reasons.
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>>>> How do you deal with that?
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>>>> Is it still possible to use the old 5.2 adaptors (CGI or ISAPI) =
with modern IIS versions and WO 5.4? How about 64-bit-ness?
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>>>> Would it be possible to set up WO 5.2 and just replace all the =
frameworks with the 5.4 equivalents so that at least the CGI adaptor =
(WebObjects.exe) from the old version works?
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>>>> Has Apple ever released the source of the Windows adaptors so that =
they could be recompiled for 64-bit IIS?
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>>>> Thanks for your input.
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>>>> Ralph
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