Re: ERXGenericRecord call didUpdate on insert object

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Hi Paul,
thank you for the answer,

2015-03-09 23:34 GMT+01:00 Paul Hoadley <[email protected]>:

> Hi Daniele,
>
> On 10 Mar 2015, at 2:52 am, Daniele Corti <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> No problem in implementation, but, when I create a new object, I've
> noticed that the method didUpdate() is called before didInsert(), so
> creating an entry in DB, perform an Update log and a Insert log. However,
> deleting the Record does not call the didUpdate method, just the didDelete.
>
> It is supposed to do this?
>
>
> That's certainly what it _does_, yes.  So you're not going crazy, and
> nothing is broken.
>

at least this....


>
> The didUpdate documentation say:
>
> Called on the object after is has successfully been updated in the
> database. But the Object is Inserted not Updated, so I don't understand
> very well the working of this...
>
>
> I agree that the documentation is poor.  You might argue that the database
> itself has been "updated" after the insertion, but I think that would be
> confusingly loose language given that there exists an UPDATE SQL statement,
> and it hasn't been used in the case of inserting a new object.
>
>
Ok, so the transaction lifecycle call:

INSERT:

   - willInsert
   - Insert Statement
   - didUpdate
   - didInsert


UPDATE:

   - willUpdate
   - Update Statement
   - didUpdate


DELETE:

   - willDelete
   - Delete Statement
   - didDelete

But, why didUpdate is not called after deletion? The delete is a change in
DB, so is some sort of update....


> Anyway, if this is the normal behavior in EOGenericRecord lifecycle, is
> there a way to notice that the didUpdate method is called on a inserted
> object, or another method must be used in order to do this?
>
>
> willUpdate() is called prior to an actual UPDATE (and not prior to an
> INSERT).  Would this help?
>
>
This could be useful, but, I would like to do the Log when I'm sure the
changes in DB are performed, and willUpdate is called prior of
validateForSave. Is there any problem, if I call the validate method in
willUpdate()?


>
> --
> Paul Hoadley
> http://logicsquad.net/
>
>
>


-- 
Daniele Corti
--
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Paul,<div>thank you for the answer,=C2=A0</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-03-09 23:34 GMT+01:0=
0 Paul Hoadley <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Daniele,<div><br><div><span class=
=3D""><div>On 10 Mar 2015, at 2:52 am, Daniele Corti &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>No problem in implement=
ation, but, when I create a new object, I&#39;ve noticed that the method di=
dUpdate() is called before didInsert(), so creating an entry in DB, perform=
 an Update log and a Insert log. However, deleting the Record does not call=
 the didUpdate method, just the didDelete.</div><div><br></div><div>It is s=
upposed to do this?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>That=
&#39;s certainly what it _does_, yes.=C2=A0 So you&#39;re not going crazy, =
and nothing is broken.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>at least this....</div><div>=C2=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div> The didUpdate documentation say:<=
/div><div><p><span>Called on the object after is has successfully been upda=
ted in the database. But the Object is Inserted not Updated, so I don&#39;t=
 understand very well the working of this...</span></p></div></div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div></span><div>I agree that the documentation is poor.=C2=
=A0 You might argue that the database itself has been &quot;updated&quot; a=
fter the insertion, but I think that would be confusingly loose language gi=
ven that there exists an UPDATE SQL statement, and it hasn&#39;t been used =
in the case of inserting a new object.</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div=
></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ok, so the trans=
action lifecycle call:</div><div><br></div><div>INSERT:</div><div><ul><li>w=
illInsert<br></li><li>Insert Statement<br></li><li>didUpdate<br></li><li>di=
dInsert<br></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div>UPDATE:=C2=A0</div><div><ul>=
<li>willUpdate<br></li><li>Update Statement<br></li><li>didUpdate<br></li><=
/ul></div><div><br></div><div>DELETE:</div><div><ul><li>willDelete<br></li>=
<li>Delete Statement<br></li><li>didDelete<br></li></ul></div><div>But, why=
 didUpdate is not called after deletion? The delete is a change in DB, so i=
s some sort of update....</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><span class=3D""><div></div><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><p>Anyway, if this is the normal behav=
ior in EOGenericRecord lifecycle, is there a way to notice that the didUpda=
te method is called on a inserted object, or another method must be used in=
 order to do this?</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>w=
illUpdate() is called prior to an actual UPDATE (and not prior to an INSERT=
).=C2=A0 Would this help?</div><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><di=
v><br></div></font></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>This could be useful, but, I would like to do the Log when I&#39;m sure t=
he changes in DB are performed, and willUpdate is called prior of validateF=
orSave. Is there any problem, if I call the validate method in willUpdate()=
?</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);b=
order-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word=
"><div><div><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><div></div><div><br></=
div></font></span></div><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"=
border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Lucida Grande&#3=
9;;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:=
normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"=
border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Lucida Grande&#3=
9;;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:=
normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">--=C2=A0<br>Pau=
l Hoadley<br><a href=3D"http://logicsquad.net/" target=3D"_blank">http://lo=
gicsquad.net/</a><br><br></div></span></div></span></span>
</div>
<br></font></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div=
><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature">Daniele Corti<br>--<br>I D=
ON&#39;T DoubleClick<br></div>
</div></div>

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