antispam = no horror
Thomas Waldmann <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:59:37 +0100
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.web.wiki.moin.devel |
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Just to clear some things: The background ============== Since quite some time many public wikis experience a major problem: Wiki spammers regularly polluting numerous pages with their link spam (just to get a better google ranking, or maybe some visitors). At the beginning, they did that manually, but meanwhile I think they have scripts that automatically search and spam wikis. Some even did make accounts when anon editing was not allowed. As that annoyance got bigger and bigger, I decided to strike back and wrote antispam, first as optional plugin, and since 1.2.4 as built-in thing. The problem was how to recognize such spam and I chose regular expressions as a powerful means to get them all (no matter if they are really links or just texts showing some "promoted" URL) and moin uses the content of the BadContent page to deny saving a page containing any match to those REs - when you have it enabled in your moin_config.py (wikiconfig.py for 1.3). I have decided to switch it on by default because I have too often seen the damage of those spammers (and too often helped fixing it again, which costs lots of time), knowing that if it is not on by default, many people won't switch it on because they simply forget or are not aware of the problem. Another problem was how to update that BadContent page. I chose, until we have a better solution, to just fetch the page from the MoinMaster:BadContent master page (checking first, if it is newer and also not fetching too often [we must pay for traffic, you maybe too]). So we just need to update that single page, to get that new spam patterns banned in all wikis fetching the page. It is quite important to be fast as (similar to new windows viruses), the spammers often change their URLs and use new domains. If you have new spam, you can "report" it on MoinMaster:LocalBadContent and we transfer it to the real (protected) page ASAP. After release 1.2.4 I was made aware of some principal problems, why it is switched off by default in 1.3.x: * not any wiki has (or is allowed to have) internet connectivity * some wikis have unreliable or very slow internet connectivity The current problems ==================== After 1.3.1 release I upgraded linuxwiki.org from 1.2.4 to 1.3.1 and also to participate in the wiki farm running under twisted (before, it was cgi). That caused quite some load problems and crashes of that wiki farm, making moinmaster wiki unavailable sometimes. I tried to fix by switching to the 1.3.1 "standalone" wiki server, but we have noticed that it doesn't work as antispam server at all. I have switched back to twisted now, hoping it won't overload again. The 1.2.4 antispam client code just uses some xmlrpc calls of the python standard library - and we noticed later, that those calls have NO TIMEOUT at all. So if you hit save and it wants to fetch an update for BadContent and moinmaster wiki isn't working correctly or down or disconnected, it will wait forever (or until some other timeout happens, like Apache of Browser ...) and won't save the page. After we noticed that problems, we developped xmlrpc code WITH timeout, so the 1.3.x code has less problems in such a case. What to do? =========== If you run your wiki on an intranet not accessible from the internet, switch antispam off (1.2.4 default = on - see moin_config.py, 1.3.x default = off - see wikiconfig.py). If your wiki can be accessed from the internet and you allow anon or user edits, you principally should use antispam or you risk being raided badly and often by some spammers. OTOH, you are free to switch it off if you can't live with moinmaster's availability (we try hard to have good availability, but, as you know, shit happens). Thanks for reading this far, Thomas Waldmann ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/