Re: New User General Questions

Reini Urban <[email protected]> Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:59:56 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.wiki.phpwiki.talk
Message-ID <[email protected]>
2010/3/30 Morgan Aldridge <[email protected]>:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Oliver Betz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> There's no website unfortunately.
>>> Docs are in http://phpwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/phpwiki/trunk/doc/
>>> at http://phpwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/phpwiki/trunk/pgsrc/
>>
>> not appropriate IMNSHO.
>
> There are two developers only, but many users.

> I still see no active "community".

Yes, as I said, it's not visible here.

I'm still presenting phpwiki on various wiki conferences and barcamps,
but as Patrick Michaud, the pmwiki developer, we have more to do with
our perl compiler projects, Patrick for perl6, me for perl5, besides
our real work as knowledge engineers.

Marc-Etienne has his users behind the Alcatel-Lucent firewall, my
users are behind the AVL firewall. Both are companies with >2500
developers.
I believe Google or Zend have less developers if you want to play the
number game.

>>> * Many plugins, in my opinion more, better and easier than mediawiki
>>> plugins. mediawiki just has easier syntax plugins.
>>
>> For example? Where are these plugins documented?

Every plugin has its help page.
You can e.g. see them at
http://phpwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/phpwiki/trunk/pgsrc/
at Help%2F*Plugin
Doesn't look too hard to find.

> I have to agree, I found it very unprofessional and off-putting that
> there's no website with documentation, esp. not one running on your
> own software!

Install it and browse the Help esp. for the plugins

Not every applications needs an online demo site. We would like to
have some demo site online again, but we need a server. Since we are
not at the university anymore,
rather in big companies we don't have such a server ready.

> I inherited a very old install of PhpWiki that I couldn't easily
> migrate to a newer version and it didn't survive a required upgrade to
> PHP 5. I did get a little support here at the time, but responses were
> extremely slow since the community is so small. And without even basic
> documentation, I had little interest in pursuing the project.
>
> Someday I'll get an old copy of apache & PHP running so I can try to
> recover all the data in it, but it's really a shame.
>
> Morgan

BTW: All this is no user support.
A user would have found it by himself. And we really don't need to
persuade others to use it.
Install it, try it out, through it away. You are free.

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