Re: XForms' transform function

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Hi Philip,

Just curious whether you are considering only "full" schematron 
validation, or whether you are also considering support for "type library" 
schematron validation.
A type library provides datatype definitions that can be applied to 
instance data nodes via the type MIP (model item property).
It's probably no big deal if an implementation already provides an XML 
schema way of building type libraries, but like I said ... just curious.

Cheers,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
Distinguished Engineer, IBM Forms and Smarter Web Applications
IBM Canada Software Lab, Victoria
E-Mail: [email protected] 

Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
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From:   Philip Fennell <[email protected]>
To:     "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date:   05/10/2011 09:07 AM
Subject:        XForms' transform function
Sent by:        [email protected]



I have been experimenting with demonstrating Schematron validation within 
XForms by the use of the proposed transform function. I have been using 
XSLTForms beta3 and have a rather limited example which uses the textual 
result from the XSLT 1.0 skeleton implementation. Seeing as XSLTForms' 
transform function returns a string serialization of the result of the 
transform I cannot use the SVRL representation of a Schematron report 
which would, if available as an XML tree, provide more options for 
presentation and logic/behavior than the basic text report. However, it 
does prove that it can work all be it that the 'complied' schema can only 
be accessed via a URI.

I am still looking for an implementation that'll firstly let me store the 
compiled schema in an XForms instance and ultimately allow me to 
daisy-chain the compilation transforms, across an number of instances, so 
that I can create a Schematron rules editor in XForms and have the schema 
compiled and applied to a test source document upon DOMSubtreeModified 
events dispatched from the schema instance. The nearest option I can 
currently see working is to use Orbeon's xxforms:call-xpl() function and 
implement the Schematron compilation pipeline externally to XForms but 
that's not what I'm after.

I have attached the fledgling form so that you can see the string of 
instances I'll in order to compile the schema. It's all rather a hack at 
the moment but I'm planning on making it look a bit more presentable.


Regards

Philip Fennell
Consultant
MarkLogic Corporation

One Kingdom Street
Paddington Central
London W2 6BD
United Kingdom

Mobile: +44 (0) 7824 830 866 
Tel:    +44 (0) 203 402 3619

email  [email protected]
web    www.marklogic.com




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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Philip,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just curious whether you are considering
only &quot;full&quot; schematron validation, or whether you are also considering
support for &quot;type library&quot; schematron validation.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A type library provides datatype definitions
that can be applied to instance data nodes via the type MIP (model item
property).</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It's probably no big deal if an implementation
already provides an XML schema way of building type libraries, but like
I said ... just curious.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cheers,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">John M. Boyer, Ph.D.<br>
Distinguished Engineer, IBM Forms and Smarter Web Applications<br>
IBM Canada Software Lab, Victoria<br>
E-Mail: [email protected] &nbsp;<br>
<br>
Blog: </font><a href=http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer</font></a><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Blog RSS feed: </font><a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/rss/JohnBoyer?flavor=rssdw"><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/rss/JohnBoyer?flavor=rssdw</font></a><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
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&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;[email protected]&quot;
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<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">05/10/2011 09:07 AM</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">XForms' transform
function</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[email protected]</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I have been experimenting with demonstrating Schematron
validation within XForms by the use of the proposed transform function.
I have been using XSLTForms beta3 and have a rather limited example which
uses the textual result from the XSLT 1.0 skeleton implementation. Seeing
as XSLTForms' transform function returns a string serialization of the
result of the transform I cannot use the SVRL representation of a Schematron
report which would, if available as an XML tree, provide more options for
presentation and logic/behavior than the basic text report. However, it
does prove that it can work all be it that the 'complied' schema can only
be accessed via a URI.<br>
<br>
I am still looking for an implementation that'll firstly let me store the
compiled schema in an XForms instance and ultimately allow me to daisy-chain
the compilation transforms, across an number of instances, so that I can
create a Schematron rules editor in XForms and have the schema compiled
and applied to a test source document upon DOMSubtreeModified events dispatched
from the schema instance. The nearest option I can currently see working
is to use Orbeon's xxforms:call-xpl() function and implement the Schematron
compilation pipeline externally to XForms but that's not what I'm after.<br>
<br>
I have attached the fledgling form so that you can see the string of instances
I'll in order to compile the schema. It's all rather a hack at the moment
but I'm planning on making it look a bit more presentable.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Philip Fennell<br>
Consultant<br>
MarkLogic Corporation<br>
<br>
One Kingdom Street<br>
Paddington Central<br>
London W2 6BD<br>
United Kingdom<br>
<br>
Mobile: +44 (0) 7824 830 866 <br>
Tel: &nbsp; &nbsp;+44 (0) 203 402 3619<br>
<br>
email&nbsp; [email protected]<br>
web&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></tt><a href=www.marklogic.com><tt><font size=2>www.marklogic.com</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
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