Re: New introduction to XForms 2.0

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Hi Steven,

The preamble is looking good, thanks for the changes.
The one bullet point that is not like the others is "Structured, typed 
data is supported." It does not communicate the advantage(s) like the 
others do.
I could recommend something that accentuates submissions and the direct 
bindings of UI controls and model item properties, like this:

* Structured, typed data is supported. The hierarchical data structures 
that REST and web services produce and consume are directly consumed and 
produced by forms, preserving the data structure throughout an end-to-end 
solution. The form's controls and data model processing constructs bind 
directly to and operate directly on hierarchical data structures. Although 
XML is the principal format for this, other transmission formats like JSON 
and CSV are also supported.

Maybe some further word swizzling could connect "end-to-end solution" with 
the compatibility of forms, via REST services, with various NoSQL storage 
solutions, like MongoDB or CouchDB.

Either way, you may even then want to move this first.

Best regards,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
IBM Distinguished Engineer & IBM Master Inventor
@johnboyerphd | [email protected]




From:   "Steven Pemberton" <[email protected]>
To:     "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "Steven Pemberton" <[email protected]>, 

Cc:     "Forms WG" <[email protected]>
Date:   02/24/2014 08:07 AM
Subject:        Re: New introduction to XForms 2.0



Thanks to all who commented.

I have updated it at http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html

Best wishes,

Steven Pemberton


On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:34:45 +0100, Steven Pemberton 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear XForms users,
>
> I have rewritten the introduction to XForms for the XForms 2.0 spec and 
> would appreciate any comments you might have.
>
> http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html
>
> I have tried to simplify it. Are there any features that don't get 
> mentioned that ought to be?
> Are there things mentioned that don't need to be?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Steven Pemberton



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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Steven,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The preamble is looking good, thanks
for the changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The one bullet point that is not like
the others is &quot;Structured, typed data is supported.&quot; It does
not communicate the advantage(s) like the others do.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I could recommend something that accentuates
submissions and the direct bindings of UI controls and model item properties,
like this:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* <b>Structured, typed data is supported.
</b>The hierarchical data structures that REST and web services produce
and consume are directly consumed and produced by forms, preserving the
data structure throughout an end-to-end solution. The form's controls and
data model processing constructs bind directly to and operate directly
on hierarchical data structures. Although XML is the principal format for
this, other transmission formats like JSON and CSV are also supported.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Maybe some further word swizzling could
connect &quot;end-to-end solution&quot; with the compatibility of forms,
via REST services, with various NoSQL storage solutions, like MongoDB or
CouchDB.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Either way, you may even then want to
move this first.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Best regards,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">John M. Boyer, Ph.D.<br>
IBM Distinguished Engineer &amp; IBM Master Inventor<br>
@johnboyerphd | [email protected]<br>
</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;Steven Pemberton&quot;
&lt;[email protected]&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;[email protected]&quot;
&lt;[email protected]&gt;, &quot;[email protected]&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt;,
&quot;Steven Pemberton&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt;, </font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&quot;Forms WG&quot;
&lt;[email protected]&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">02/24/2014 08:07 AM</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: New introduction
to XForms 2.0</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Thanks to all who commented.<br>
<br>
I have updated it at </font></tt><a href=http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html><tt><font size=2>http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Steven Pemberton<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:34:45 +0100, Steven Pemberton &nbsp;<br>
&lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Dear XForms users,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have rewritten the introduction to XForms for the XForms 2.0 spec
and &nbsp;<br>
&gt; would appreciate any comments you might have.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; </font></tt><a href=http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html><tt><font size=2>http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/intro.html</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have tried to simplify it. Are there any features that don't get
&nbsp;<br>
&gt; mentioned that ought to be?<br>
&gt; Are there things mentioned that don't need to be?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks for any help.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Steven Pemberton<br>
<br>
</font></tt>
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