Re: Section translation CPS 3.4 (now for document)

Hi Lionel,

Lionel MENARD wrote:
> Hi Jose Luis,
>
> Jose Luis de la Rosa Triviño a écrit :
>> Lionel MENARD wrote:
>>> Hi Jose Luis,
>>>
>>> sorry for the delay, but I was on business trip last week.
>>>
>>> First let me thank you for your help. I've read the blog and I have 
>>> few questions because I'm real close implementing this document 
>>> traduction mechanism, but there is still some strange behaviours.
>>>
>>> So first I am not able to do the workflow set-up for some of the 
>>> workflows you've listed.
>>>
>>> In the section_content_wf I can't find the "add_language_to_proxy" 
>>> in the translation call "translate" that I created. I have only a 
>>> "fixup_after_publish" option in the menu list.
>>>
>>> Is it a problem  ?
>> Yes. But you can fix it by importing the script add_language_to_proxy 
>> to the workflow. For this take a look at the files in profiles/workflow.
>
> I've done it.
>
>>>
>>> It's OK for the three others workflows.
>>>
>>> Then, when I read your blogs you say that you have an action call 
>>> "Create revision for translation" that I can't find in my action list.
>> Actually, the action is "Tranlate" and in the form that is displayed 
>> there is a button labeled "Create revision for translation".
>
> Ok it was a misunderstanding as it is not a new icon in the action bar 
> but a form that is displayed after you click the "New Translation" 
> action icon.
>
>>>
>>> The problem is that though I'm able to create translation of a given 
>>> document and published it in my portal, I've find strange behaviours 
>>> when I try to roll translations of a given document in the workspace 
>>> by fliping the flags. The correct translation does not show up. To 
>>> do so I need to create a chekout revision and  there I'm able to 
>>> roll translated version of the document by fliping the flags. I can 
>>> make changes and commit the revision, but I'm then not able anymore 
>>> to flip the different translations.
>>>
>>> That why I say that it's still working but with strange and not easy 
>>> to manage document behaviours.
>>>
>>> It' seems I miss one step (maybe the "Create revision for 
>>> translation" action button) to properly handle transaction process.
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea fo fix this ?
>> Well, I tried to translate in a CPS 3.4.4 and found no strange 
>> behaviours. Can you try the same in a new instance of CPS to know if 
>> the problem is your instance?
>
> In fact my CPS instance is a 3.4.0.1.
>
> As a final result I am able to create, modify, publish and view 
> document on my CSP instance in French, English and Spannish.
> The only drawback I'm facing is when I just create a translation of a 
> document, I cannot immediatly see this translation when I flip the 
> flags. To be able to view translation, I need first to click on the 
> "check out revision" button, make a revision and then I see the 
> translations when I flip the flags.
>
> Do you have the same behaviour ?
No. I have never needed to use "check out revision" but I remember that 
in CPS 3.4.0 a member of my team said to have problems with translation. 
Does somebody in the development team of CPS know something about this??

Thanks.
>
> On the other hand when I publish the document in sections, I can veiw 
> the different traduction correctly when I flip flags.
>
> Thanks a lot !!!!
>
>
> Lionel
>
>
>>
>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Thank you in adavance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lionel
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jose Luis de la Rosa Triviño a écrit :
>>>> Hi Lionel,
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep this on the list.
>>>>
>>>> I have written the answer in 
>>>> http://cpsproject-howto.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-enable-translations.html 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, if anybody wants to add some post to the blog, i'll be 
>>>> glad to give you poster permissions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards!
>>>>
>>>> Lionel MENARD wrote:
>>>>> Hello JoseLuis,
>>>>>
>>>>> As a reminder I've attached the thread of our former email 
>>>>> exchange concerning section translation for CPS. It currently 
>>>>> perfectly works and I was in  the process of doing so for documents
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you will be able to answer my question as I did'nt find any 
>>>>> clues on the mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would like to know how to switch for a given document from a 
>>>>> translation (spanish) to another (english) or (french) in order to 
>>>>> be able to modify any of the given translation on purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> I  am able toconsult each of the revision I make, when I look at 
>>>>> the history but when I view it I don't have the edit function as 
>>>>> an action. The reversion function does not help neither for that 
>>>>> matter. Am I missing something basic or do I need to change 
>>>>> something in the  workflow ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help would be greatly appricaited.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lionel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño a écrit :
>>>>>> Thanks for translating the solution to french, I should learn to 
>>>>>> speak that language some day :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't mind I will forward it to the english list too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño Técnico de Desarrollo Software 
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>>>>>> 300
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>>>> De: Lionel MENARD [mailto:[email protected]] Enviado el: 
>>>>>> lunes, 04 de septiembre de 2006 14:40
>>>>>> Para: JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño
>>>>>> Asunto: Re: Section translation CPS 3.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello JoseLuis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you VERY MUCH for your help. I've done the modifications 
>>>>>> that you provided and it smoothly works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very gratefull for your fast and helpfull reply. I have now 
>>>>>> to complete all the folders translation :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On your behalf I will point out your post in the french mailing 
>>>>>> list with a translation in french for people who might encounter 
>>>>>> the same problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lionel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño a écrit :
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hello Lionel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The procedure I gave for translation in the mailing list is the 
>>>>>>> first task you should do to translate the titles of folders. 
>>>>>>> Once you follow those five steps:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.- Go to the folder in sections which title you want to translate.
>>>>>>> 2.- Click the translate action, then choose the language and 
>>>>>>> finally write the new translated title.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notice you can modify only the workflow section_folder_wf, if 
>>>>>>> you just want to translate sections' folders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps, it worked for us for the same version of CPS 
>>>>>>> you are using, however don't hesitate to ask.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño Técnico de Desarrollo Software 
>>>>>>> FUNDACIÓN IAVANTE joseluis.rosa-PttKq6FmaWE8QMA/Cy+x5VaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org Tel. 951 
>>>>>>> 015 300
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>>>>>>> su(s) destinatario(s). Toda copia o divulgación deberá ser 
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>>>>> De: Lionel MENARD [mailto:[email protected]] Enviado el: 
>>>>>>> lunes, 04 de septiembre de 2006 11:42
>>>>>>> Para: JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño
>>>>>>> Asunto: Section translation CPS 3.4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Jose Luis,
>>>>>>> I have read a post in the CPS mainling-list:
>>>>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.cps.general/1306/match=translate 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where you give a solution for translation. I would like to make 
>>>>>>> sure that this could solve my problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This web site: www.thermoptim.org is intented to provide 
>>>>>>> multilingual navigation (not a fully multilingual web site). As 
>>>>>>> you can see when you switch languages, the top folders (Bases de 
>>>>>>> thermodynamique, Enseignement, Glossaire, Logiciel, Problèmes 
>>>>>>> globaux, Technologies) and the one below are not translated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been able to translate some content by using text portlet 
>>>>>>> and the Localizer mechanism, but I 'am unable to find a way to 
>>>>>>> translate the title of those folders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, does the solution that you provided will help me to add this 
>>>>>>> features to my portal ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my config.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CPS 3.4.0-1
>>>>>>> Zope 2.9.1
>>>>>>> Python 2.4.3
>>>>>>> Linux Red-Hat Ent. 3.4.5-2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you by advance for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lionel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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