Re: removing zope.app from the ZTK
Wichert Akkerman <[email protected]>
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On 12/29/09 17:00 , Martijn Faassen wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> On 12/29/09 16:25 , Martijn Faassen wrote: >>> Earlier this year we decided to refocus our efforts on the ZTK, a >>> leaner, meaner Zope 3 with a different focus, which has code that we >>> really use, no UI, and with cleaner dependencies. >> >> I feel a disconnect here. As I see it the ZTK is not a 'leaner, meaner >> Zope 3'. Zope 3 is a modular application framework, while the ZTK is a >> small framework that can be used to build applications or applications >> frameworks. ZTK has no history since it never existed before (and still >> is only vapourware since it has no releases nor a release manager), so >> it does not have any backwards compatibility to worry about. > > The sense of irony of you feeling a disconnect is rather strong here. I > was the one who proposed the ZTK in the first place, remember? > >> It seems that you want to have a 'ZTK+' which aims to be backwards >> compatible with Zope 3 but is somehow not Zope 3 itself. That is >> something that not everybody appears to be interested in judging by the >> lack of progress on Zope 3 itself, but if you want to pursue that I do >> not see any reason for you not to do that. But it should separate from >> the ZTK. > > I'm glad the message of what the ZTK is that I tried to spread so hard > has arrived so well. > > The ZTK wants to reduce responsibilities. One of the responsibilities > you gain when you want to reduce responsibilities is to do this responsibly. You are ignoring my point though: why should the ZTK have to be burdened with trying to be backwards compatible with something that it never was? Why are you insisting on putting Zope3 in it? Wichert. _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )