Re: removing zope.app from the ZTK
Tres Seaver <[email protected]>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Chris McDonough wrote: >> I don't think "the ZTK" as defined by the historical constraints under >> discussion here has much attraction for a large number of folks who are >> otherwise willing to put effort into maintaining Zope packages. >> >> For these folks, any reduction in number of dependencies and test maintenance >> is a net win, because they just don't use the stuff they throw out, and they >> don't have any Grok or legacy Zope3 apps in production to maintain that uses >> this stuff either. >> >> So maybe these folks should come up with their own "KGS" for whatever they need >> as a subset of "the ZTK". In particular, maybe Zope2 should just be based on >> this subset. > > I think the ZTK should be a smaller thing, but we need to find what that > smaller thing is first. I agree with the general idea underlying this > move, just not the way it was done, disclaiming responsibility. > > I'm quite sure that most of the zope.app.* packages that were dropped > are just not very useful anymore. But we should drop them responsibly. The maintainer who dropped them also went to a great deal of trouble to ensure that the dependencies were fixed, and that what remains is a coherent and usable set of the packages which used to be Zope3. Because of his work, and that of others, the Zope2 trunk can now run against the zope.app-free ZTK he created. You need to identify whose ox is being gored here by dropping those packages: I don't see anybody but you arguing for their inclusion. In particular, I don't see anybody who knows *which* zope.app packages they need, and has a credible argument for why those pacakges should be maintained within the ZTK, rather than by the folks who actually use them. If the ZTK is to be held hostage to a (nonsensical) BBB for nameless users, I would be in favor of just copying Hanno's version of the ZTK config into the Zope2 tree and have Zope2 ignore the ZTK per-se. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [email protected] Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAks6dTgACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ4KIQCcDjWOMCw1clCGbv03CxEflkRv e5sAn3HLimvx7WbWEo7hujnzItV1q5XI =z8P+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )