Re: Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?
Christian Theune <[email protected]>
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On 11/16/2011 02:06 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/16/2011 07:28 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro >>> <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having >>>> both confuses the heck out of me. >>> >>> Definitely a topic that needs (re)-opening. From a CMF point of I >>> think we're just about at the point where we could switch to browser >>> layers, well, at least once CMF 2.3 has been released. But I think >>> that CMF Skins still offer some functionality that you don't get >>> with browser layers out of the box. >> >> When I said skins I meant ++skins++. CMF Skins must die. > > Note that for all their warts, they are *massively* more successful than > the Z3 reimplementation, which was overengineered (I helped with that, > I'm sure). In particular, the exceesive amount of ZCA majyk makes > complicaterd uses of the Z3 skins very fragile (easy to misconfigure, > hard to discover what you broke). But they also have their merits. If I could make a wish, I'd like to see a shared implementation that marries all the benefits. :) Something I love a lot is the ++skin++ traverser for example. I also like the idea of "tagging" the Request object with structured information (an interface) to indicate specialisation. I hate that I have to spell the layer in each ZCML statement. Just my 0.02, Christian -- Christian Theune · [email protected] gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )