Re: We need to change how code ownership works.
Robert Niederreiter <[email protected]>
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On 19.08.2012 13:01, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:17 , Lennart Regebro <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> And since it becomes ever easier to accept code from unknown sources (e.g. pull requests) legal code ownership becomes an issue again. >>> >>> And that returns me to my first question: Is it really legally >>> different for a contributor to accept a pull request from a >>> non-contributor compared with a contributor merging a patch from a >>> non-contributor? >> >> Legally, both are disallowed unless there's some proof (written statement etc) from the code author that he assigns ownership of the patch or the contents of that pull request to the contributor who is doing the checkin. >> >> In the past we haven't done a good job of enforcing this clear ownership assignment chain. There are always code patches from non-contributors in the bug tracker that may make it into the code base with the help of a contributor. There's a grey area: Is the act of submitting a patch into the Zope bug tracker enough to signal "I am giving you ownership of this code"? I am not sure. >> >> GitHub makes this pulling in of "outside" code even easier. I'm afraid it will become even harder to really maintain this chain of custody. > > This is then, IMO a problem that we should fix. What you are in fact > saying is that the current system are violating people's copyright > everytime we merge a non-contributors patch. It is unfeasible to not > merge peoples patches, and I think it is also a big problem that the > way the ownership of the code works now inhibits the increased > simplicity of making and merging fixes for non-core contributors. > > In other words, we have had an ownership situation which is terrible, > and nobody seems to have realized this until now. Well, now we know. > > As such, the discussion must now shift from "don't do this" to "how do > we do this". Poeple want to contribute and we should not say "don't do > that", we have to figure out *how* to make it possible to do that, and > pretty pronto as well. Would it stand the law if there would be a written statement inside the relevant projects stating out that the ownership of code changes as soon as an outside patch gets applied? robert > > //Lennart > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - [email protected] > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > -- Robert Niederreiter Squarewave Computing Aflingerstraße 19 A-6176 Völs Tel: +43 699 160 20 192 Web: http://www.squarewave.at _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )