Re: First Zope 4 beta release in preparation

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Am 24.08.2017 um 22:28 schrieb Christopher Lozinski =
<[email protected]>:
> First thank you for all of the of hard work.=20
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> Actually I should say, thank you for all of the very hard work.=20
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> Can we add grok-dev to this discussion list?

Zope 4 is the successor of Zope 2.13 but Grok is based on Zope 3 =
libraries. Whereas Zope 3 was a complete re-implementation of Zope from =
scratch.
For me it does not make sense to take Grok into the loop of the Zope 4 =
release messages. Grok and Zope 2 resp. 4 only share some libraries =
which are Python 3 compatible for some years now and were not touched =
during the Zope 4 release process.

> So let me ask the obvious question.  Are there any simplifications we =
should make to Zope 4?

There might be some possible ones but I doubt that Grok is the answer. =
(The Plone folks are ripping out Grok from Plone as it makes Plone more =
complex instead of easier. It is another way to register components =
besides the existing one via ZCML and it requires developers to =
understand both.)


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Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen
Michael Howitz


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