Re: Zope.org fading away ..
Rich Harley <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:45:04 +0000
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On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, [email protected] wrote: > Rich Harley wrote: >> On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Rich Harley wrote: >>>> It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing to move it forward. >>> The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be. >> >> It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, > > Why? I am not disputing Zope is/was a great open source project. > >> >> The problem is how to attract new developers to rebuild a Zope fit for life from 2015+. That would mean making the framework more modern in every sense but still retaining the features that made Zope great in the past like excellent security handling and a quick development cycle. This is not an easy task and would probably involve some rebranding as the Zope name is now associated with an old framework. >> >> >>> The decade of the large application servers and frameworks is over. >> >> Possibly but Zope could have moved with the times and evolved with the momentum it had 5 years ago instead of being usurped by frameworks like Django and Turbogears which any python dev would choose over Zope in a heartbeat these days if they wanted to build a scalable application. This is what needs to be addressed - or is it your opinion that Zope will die and there’s nothing we can do about it? That seems a shame to me. > > Zope lives as long as someone uses it (Plone uses it). Plone is going the same way of declining usage and development over the last 3-5 years. > Apart from that: > the project live from the contributions and contributors. The Zope > world is kind of a legacy and it is unlikely at this will change. > Keep it alive somehow to the point as you need by taking over > responsibility. Do you step up for a particular task? Good response:) No I don’t step up right now, too busy with our own codebase. But we would love to take the project forward in the future when we are a bigger company. Is the Zope 4 project still alive that was talked about in 2011? > > Andreas _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - [email protected] https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )