Fwd: Mini-Sprint in Rome?

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Hi all,

I'm sorry to post this again - but I did not receive any answers. So, 
does that mean our (Windows-) Mailserver had some hick-up ... or is 
no-one interested at all ?
:-(

greetings from the sunny, shiny, warm, wonderful Eternal City (you see, 
I hope to convince you at least with the weater :-)))

Bernd

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> Von: Bernd Kulawik <[email protected]>
> Datum: 7. November 2003 10:23:13 MEZ
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: [Collective-ticle] Mini-Sprint in Rome?
>
> Dear all,
>
> you might already know that Jodok is organising a Snow-Sprint in 
> Vorarlberg which hopefully could take place at the end of January. We 
> cancelled the idea to have an official second part of the sprint here 
> in Rome because it would altogether last too long and be to difficult 
> to organise travels from the first place to the second and then back 
> ...
>
> But, what would you think about having an additional "little" sprint 
> in Rome though? The aim would be to build a project like we planned to 
> do with "ZUCCARO" (http://zuccaro.biblhertz.it:8080/ZUCCARO - still 
> only in German, sorry ...) based on Ticle - which seems to be able to 
> support a lot of our ideas "out of the box". Of course, this 
> "tool-box" would be used for our special purposes at first, but it is 
> intended to be usable for other projects (Online-Databases in the 
> humanities and social or historical sciences with Content Management 
> functions) as well - but I could imagine also the usage of this for 
> very different (commercial?) projects:
> As far as I understand it, Ticle "out of the box" is a very abstract 
> thing, not intended to serve for the ad-hoc creation of projects like 
> the one it was made for (by Neonex and Simon) in the beginning. 
> Therefore, to have an easy costumizable (via XML Schemas) tool-box 
> based on Ticle that would be "closer" to the needs of any project 
> could serve not only as a showcase, but used widely in (hopefully: 
> very) different other projects, especially in the "non-market" of 
> low-financed research, education and so on, but also in free projects 
> or (not only) small commercial environments.
> One purpose (of our ZUCCARO - and therefore, of this "Ticle based 
> tool-box" too) is to migrate the HIDA/MIDAS-Databases used by many 
> (about 40-50) foto/picture archives not only in Germany to a free 
> solution: the commercial one just got into the trap of closed source 
> software - the company disappeared, and no-one can say what will 
> happen with all these databases in a few years when the institutions 
> have to switch to the next generation of Windows ... :-)
>
> I'm sure everybody has a lot to do beside programming for 
> Zope/Plone/Ticle --- and creating a more "customized" tool-set based 
> on Ticle might sound like work that should be done by a Zope company 
> within a clearly defined project for "real money".
> (Frankly spoken: Our problem is: We don't have that money - we could 
> apply to get some from the German Research Foundation (Deutsche 
> Forschungsgemeinschaft = DFG) --- but the bureaucratic way takes at 
> least 6 months, and because of limited contracts (for instance: mine) 
> our time is to short to try this way - which might fail anyway ...)
>
> So, please let me know if and who of you could imagine to stay in Rome 
> (for instance, in the second half of February) for a week and work on 
> this tool-box I would like to see as a widely usable Ticle showcase 
> ...
>
> Greets from the Eternal City :-)
>
> Bernd
>
> PS: I leave for Berlin today and be there for a week (EVA 2003 
> conference), so I might not be able to check my e-mail more than once 
> a day.
>
>
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Hi all,


I'm sorry to post this again - but I did not receive any answers. So,
does that mean our (Windows-) Mailserver had some hick-up ... or is
no-one interested at all ?

:-(


greetings from the sunny, shiny, warm, wonderful Eternal City (you
see, I hope to convince you at least with the weater :-)))


Bernd


Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:


<excerpt><bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Von:
</color></bold>Bernd Kulawik <<[email protected]>

<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Datum: </color></bold>7.
November 2003 10:23:13 MEZ

<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>An:
</color></bold>[email protected]

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Dear all,


you might already know that Jodok is organising a Snow-Sprint in
Vorarlberg which hopefully could take place at the end of January. We
cancelled the idea to have an official second part of the sprint here
in Rome because it would altogether last too long and be to difficult
to organise travels from the first place to the second and then back
...


But, what would you think about having an additional "little" sprint
in Rome though? The aim would be to build a project like we planned to
do with "ZUCCARO" (http://zuccaro.biblhertz.it:8080/ZUCCARO - still
only in German, sorry ...) based on Ticle - which seems to be able to
support a lot of our ideas "out of the box". Of course, this
"tool-box" would be used for our special purposes at first, but it is
intended to be usable for other projects (Online-Databases in the
humanities and social or historical sciences with Content Management
functions) as well - but I could imagine also the usage of this for
very different (commercial?) projects:

As far as I understand it, Ticle "out of the box" is a very abstract
thing, not intended to serve for the ad-hoc creation of projects like
the one it was made for (by Neonex and Simon) in the beginning.
Therefore, to have an easy costumizable (via XML Schemas) tool-box
based on Ticle that would be "closer" to the needs of any project
could serve not only as a showcase, but used widely in (hopefully:
very) different other projects, especially in the "non-market" of
low-financed research, education and so on, but also in free projects
or (not only) small commercial environments.

One purpose (of our ZUCCARO - and therefore, of this "Ticle based
tool-box" too) is to migrate the HIDA/MIDAS-Databases used by many
(about 40-50) foto/picture archives not only in Germany to a free
solution: the commercial one just got into the trap of closed source
software - the company disappeared, and no-one can say what will
happen with all these databases in a few years when the institutions
have to switch to the next generation of Windows ... :-)


I'm sure everybody has a lot to do beside programming for
Zope/Plone/Ticle --- and creating a more "customized" tool-set based
on Ticle might sound like work that should be done by a Zope company
within a clearly defined project for "real money".

(Frankly spoken: Our problem is: We don't have that money - we could
apply to get some from the German Research Foundation (Deutsche
Forschungsgemeinschaft = DFG) --- but the bureaucratic way takes at
least 6 months, and because of limited contracts (for instance: mine)
our time is to short to try this way - which might fail anyway ...)


So, please let me know if and who of you could imagine to stay in Rome
(for instance, in the second half of February) for a week and work on
this tool-box I would like to see as a widely usable Ticle showcase ...


Greets from the Eternal City :-)


Bernd


PS: I leave for Berlin today and be there for a week (EVA 2003
conference), so I might not be able to check my e-mail more than once
a day. 



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