Re: Skins quibble: "Look"

Jean Jordaan wrote:
> The ultimate aim of the tableless Plone skin is to look
> *exactly* the same as the table-based layout. Therefore,
> choosing between table-based and tableless from the "Look"
> dropdown is weird: they look the same.

true, i'm sometimes not sure if it's browser cached or it has really 
switched to the new markup/layout.

> At the moment in Plone 2, there are no alternate looks, so
> a member's Look dropdown is going to be a bit puzzling for
> users :)

it's disabled by default for members - the manager is able to change the 
skin for the whole portal

> CMF skins have always been inbetween things. They are really
> much lower-level than skins in the WinAmp or gkrellm sense.
> In the table/tableless case, the difference is the approach
> to page structure, not appearance. Ideally, appearance-type
> skins shouldn't care what layout skin you're using.

impossible for many many cases - say thanks to the internet explorer 
team ... many appearance skins depend on the layout you use.

for basic "let's just use different colors" skins it's not a problem, 
even at the moment, you just have to change the skin layers... but of 
course there's no plone ui for that.

> Looks like
>   http://plone.org/Members/arnia/myprojects/Oslo/proposal
> is where this is being discussed .. I've added this as a
> comment there too ..

oslo is really out of date... there are many things we're working at 
that are similiar to it, though (i think) a bit more backwards 
compatible... see http://plone.org/development/plips/PLIP11

i moved the discussion to the design mailinglist because thats where 
this mail belongs ;) please don't reply to plone-developers anymore.

regards, michael

PS: sorry if something with that mail goes wrong, i have to use webmail
here (thanks to my isp here) and i have no idea how to set up multiple 
recipients...
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