Re: [Communications] bastille day followup | plone.org/plone.com

Liz,

I see you are disappointed, but maybe we can get together and we can walk you through our work and the reasoning behind our recommendations.

On this end, we have all worked super long days to pull this together, and getting such a negative response to our work without getting a chance to explain is painful and demotivating. We did start from what the group at PSM did, but, at 11pm at night one evening, we all realized this wasn't a good idea. We thought we were doing the right thing by saying we didn't want to waste volunteer time on a project that may get scrapped in 6 months.

We will be happy to explain if you give us a chance. 

Thank you,
Gabrielle
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Elizabeth Leddy <[email protected]> wrote:

> For those that missed the excellent report, the Bastille day sprint report is up at: http://plone.org/news/bastille-day-day-sprint-2013-results
> 
> There are a couple major issues I think we need to discuss as a community and since people on the marketing/coms team aren't communicating with each other and commenting for plone.org is turned off, I'll start the discussion here. Weird? maybe, But I don't know where else to go.
> 
> ISSUE 1: plone.org and plone.com under 1 domain
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> Please, please, please don't do this. plone.org has to be so much more fluid than plone.com. We need to maintain it at a much higher level (read: restarting constantly) and as a developer I am tired of the content I post being under the rule of any marketing team. plone.org should eventually showcase developers and what we do, not who we are selling to. 
> 
> Ramon - have you done a blog post about the work you are doing with plone.org yet? Maybe talk with the sprinters at Basitlle day? Did anyone outside of the in crowd know that there is a beautiful design just sitting there waiting for help?
> 
> 
> ISSUE 2: we are completely defunct in marketing. bankrupt. 
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> I am at a loss here. I see in the post all of these marketing techniques like target users and blah blah which have been done at more than 2 sprints now. What do we as a community need to do to get marketing to work with each other in the same way that the developers do? 
> 
> How many revamps of plone.com are we going to go through until we actually push it? Can we just hire a marketing group that is external and pass the buck? At least plone.com would go live and we wouldn't have to worry about it.  I'm sincerely disappointed in our inability to get our shit together on the marketing front, especially with regards to our domains. 
> 
> I'm not Linus, so I won't threaten anyone but I promise you this: If plone.com isn't up by the end of this year I'm teaching a cat to juggle plone balls and just putting a giant animated gif up cause that's the most accurate representation of what we are doing right now.
> 
> Opinions, help, leadership: all welcome.
> 
> Liz
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