Re: [Plone-UI] Plone 5 Theme

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Ramon Navarro Bosch <[email protected]>wrote:

> Mainly for two reasons:
>
> * In most of our use cases the client prefers no modals ( there is a lot
> of content edition and they love to see the edit and the view with the same
> skin )
>

On most of our projects we get the use case where users get write access on
few folders of the site and only read access on many others.
Current Plone edit bar is really more suitable for this use case.



> * In most of our use cases the client needs specific edit forms (skinned
> and layout) so it's common that we need to skin also the backend and the
> edit forms layout.
>

We have the same. We have large extranets where some contributors are
almost 'unknown', we prefer that they have well skinned edit form,
consistent with display.

My opinion is that toolbar is a good option for sites with few editors and
a lot of visitors, but that current Plone edit bar is better for sites
where all users are contributors. I hope that the edit bar will remain as
an option.



> So in these cases I don't see any adventage of using ajax modal forms vs
> native edit forms. Maybe I'm wrong, it's just my opinion!. Don't
> missunderstand me, I'm sure that for normal edition or low budgets webs
> ajax/iframe/modal toolbar is great!
>
>
> 2013/11/18 Dylan Jay <djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
>
>> On 18 Nov 2013, at 11:13 pm, Ramon Navarro Bosch <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry for the cross-posting!
>> >
>> > I decided to write down my opinions after working at Arnhem sprint on
>> plone 5 theme, it's just a dump of what I have in mind :
>> >
>> >
>> http://bloc.jardigrec.cat/2013/11/plone-5-theme-plonethemebarceloneta.html
>>
>> "The toolbar idea is to have a backend and a frontend that makes skining
>> frontend really easy. The idea is great and uses a lot of js/iframe magik
>> to do it. It's were we must go to compete with CMS with separate frontend
>> and backend. In my opinion, I love the way is it now regarthless it's much
>> harder to implement the skin. For this reason I think that ajax-toolbar
>> should be optional."
>>
>> Can you explain your reasoning here? You seem to be saying separation is
>> good but you don't want it. Why?
>> If we have to make the toolbar non-isolated it makes it 10 times harder
>> than it already is.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Go go go !
>> >
>> > Ramon
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/11/15 Asko Soukka <[email protected]>
>> > Johannes Raggam wrote:
>> > > fixing tests is a massive amount of effort, tough. we should find a
>> > > strategy how to fix this.
>> >
>> > Briefly about robot tests. I think, we agreeded here that the current
>> > robot tests in CMFPlone for Plone 5 can be disabled until all the lower
>> > level tests pass.
>> >
>> > We are still in process of learning the correct way and style of writing
>> > robot tests and CMFPlone's are not yet there and require rewrite (but as
>> > they have been written by developers learning robot in sprints, it has
>> > been important for our testing skills in common).
>> >
>> > We did not yet fully agree, where robot tests should be eventually
>> > located and how could be make them re-usable with custom themes. Still
>> > things to try and learn.
>> >
>> > We write an few example robot suites in p.a.multilingual to be an
>> > example of what we currently think as a good robot tests:
>> >
>> >
>> https://github.com/plone/plone.app.multilingual/blob/master/devel/plone/app/multilingual/tests/robot/test_translate_content.robot
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Asko
>> >
>> >
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