Re: Supposed behaviour of the "visible ids" setting

Am 23.12.2013 23:07, schrieb David Glick (Plone):
> On 12/23/13, 1:58 PM, Dylan Jay wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24 Dec 2013 08:06, "Eric Steele" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 23 Dec 2013, at 10:44, Luca Fabbri wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Timo Stollenwerk tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]
>> <mailto:tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm currently working on the PLIP to move all control panels in
>> Plone to
>> >>> use z3c.form/p.a.registry and I was wondering about the supposed
>> >>> behaviour of the "visible_ids" setting.
>> >>>
>> >>> On a vanilla Plone 4.2/4.3 it seems this setting does not have any
>> >>> effect at all. If it is enabled, there is no additional id field
>> on the
>> >>> edit view of a content object and it is always possible to edit the id
>> >>> of a content object through the folder_contents view.
>> >>
>> >> I used this few days ago on PLone 4.2 and it was working as expected:
>> >> remember that you must enable both the site general setting and the
>> >>
>> >> same preference in the user's preferences.
>> >
>> > That's correct. The control panel checkbox controls access to the
>> personal preferences setting. You're basically saying "People are
>> alloChangingee the id field if they want to." It doesn't automatically
>> turn it on sitewide. Does anyone turn on the id field by default?
>>
>> Anyone know the original idea why setting the id is so many steps to
>> enable?
>> Given the user can do it by actions rename anyway. Btw Changing URL
>> via rename is a extra training step we always have to do since its not
>> intuitive.
>>
> 
> I think we should get rid of the preference and the global setting, and
> have the Short Name field always appear on the Settings tab when editing
> an item. That way it's a bit out of the way (not cluttering up the
> initial edit page), but it's also easier to access than either the
> rename dialog or turning on the visible ids preference.

+1

Do we need an additional PLIP for this or should that be part of PLIP
10359 (controlpanel -> z3cform/p.a.registry)?

Timo

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