Re: GSOC idea: integrating webodf with collaborative editing

polyester <paul-4+yus/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 14-02-14 14:31, ajung wrote:
> Paul Roeland-2 wrote
>> one idea that might fit inside a project:
>>
>> - http://webodf.org is a pretty nice editor/viewer for ODF formats
>>
>> - and has initial support for collaborative editing, and track&trace
>>
>> - for instance the people from Owncloud have an integration with it now,
>> that uses Ownclouds versioning as the 'versioning backend' for
>> track&trace.
>>
>> what I would really like about a proper integration into Plone (so the
>> authornames are taken from Plone, etc) is that you could have editing
>> and track&trace done without installing extra services like etherpad or
>> xmpp, and without sending it over external servers like with togetherjs
>> and friends. Post-Snowden compliant ;-)
>>
>> It looks project-sized enough for a student that has some
>> javascript-skills and willingness to look into how Plone's membership
>> and versioning tools work could get that done in the allotted timeframe.
> 
> -1 
> 
> Managing website content with is basically HTML with an non-HTML editor is
> basically nonsense. Converting between  two formats forth and back will
> always result in issues with structural and styling information. Such a
> conversion is never lossless.


We're probably trying to solve different use-cases here. I'm not saying
webodf.org should be used to edit HTML content. It should be used to
edit ODF content, and would aim to improve the following situations:

- 10-15 people mailing each other Word-docs around, all on different
versions of Office and operating systems, while fleshing out a
proposal/strategydocument/whatever. In the end, it's saved as an .rtf
using Comic Sans.

- in pure frustration because track/trace is not working as expected in
the frantic emailing, someone uploads that document to Googledocs in
violation of security policies, just because it's easier. Someone then
*always* shares it with the world, just because they can.

so it may not be industrial-strength publishing quality, but that's also
not really what I notice as being the most urgent and repeating problem
at a lot of organizations.

I realize this is for those use-cases that use like 20% of the features
of an office suite, but that's still a large group...

Paul



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