Re: non-western character sets and object ids

Thanks Asko and Wichert the info.

Indeed the demand in Europe might not be so big. I've learned this week 
that most German people (are trained to) expect 'ü' to show up as 'ue' 
in a url.

Kees

On 03/13/2014 12:12 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>
> On 13 Mar 2014, at 11:47, Kees Hink
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>> I noticed that Wikipedia has readable URLs even for languages with
>> non-western character sets (like Thai, [1]).
>>
>> In Plone, object ids in non-western character sets look like random
>> ascii characters (maybe ascii tranlsations of UTF encoding) [2]. This is
>> not a human-readable URL, which is something we say Plone does.
>>
>> If browsers are capable of reading non-ascii-encoded URLs, shouldn't we
>> move to these? I thought i'd ask here first before creating a ticket.
>
> It turns out not everyone wants this, even if their native language is
> non-ASCII. In particular I’ve found that Chinese people tend to prefer
> using ASCII URLs over Chinese URLs. I expect it will be harder for Dutch
> users to find the (very infrequently used accent on their keyboard than
> it is to just use the pure ASCII letter, and everyone expects that the
> pure ASCII spelling is used in URLs. That may be different for other
> languages where non-ASCII is more pervasive.
>
> This is surprisingly tricky to implement, but not impossible See
> https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2013-February/045274.html for a
> little bit of context, and
> https://github.com/wichert/experimental.utf8id for a package which makes
> this possible. Note that I never finished that package, so there are
> likely to be some remaining issues. If you want to go down that path I
> suggest polishing experimental.utf8id first, and then look at merging
> the required changes throughout the Zope/Plone stack. As an extra
> complication there is currently, as far as I know, no release manager
> for Zope so you may need to volunteer for that role as well.
>
> Wichert.
>
>
>
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