Re: How to edit dexterity types without needing to know about their behaviors

On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 08:59 -0700, ajung wrote:
> Rok Garbas-2 wrote
> > basically what i can read from this post is:
> >  - andreas thinks something in p.a.event/dexterity/z3c.form is broken
> >  - johanes tries to help and explains why
> >  - andread writes _broken_ without providing a failing test
> >  - johanes still tries to reply again
> > this could take some time before you understand each other expacially if
> > you're
> > not sitting in the same room with some wine/beer/... we're talking
> > recurssion
> > stuff here right,.
> > 
> > from what i can tell p.a.event is a fucking crazy and complex problem and
> > i think nobody can from the top of his head come up with better system.
> > now
> > what we can do is fix it, so please andreas send pull request thats where
> > value
> > of the argument is and nobody will deny that you're right.
> > 
> > same goes for dexterity getters/setters. code matters, haters will always
> > complain. so moe code and less talk :)
> 
> Reading 
> 
> https://github.com/plone/plone.app.event/blob/master/docs/development.rst
> 
> in detail...more broken issues...
> 
> The canonical API for creating content has been in Plone for more than a
> decade invokeFactory() or nowadays through plone.api.content.create()...now
> we have a dedicated
> factory for events? EventAccessor.create(...)...seriously, this can not
> be...will we see content-type specific factories with more new content-types
> coming up? Can we consider this the only exception for now and the future? I
> hope that the answer will be "yes".

Andreas, the EventAccessor.create stuff is a convenience thing. The
whole EventAccessor was born out of the idea to support AT and DX based
events via one interface. E.g. all browser views work with Archetypes
and Dexterity, just by using this IEventAccessor adapter pattern.

Listen, plone.app.event works perfectly for me, but I understand your
concerns and actually I have a plan how to fix the API inconsistencies
(I will write a mail about that plan soon to ask for comments). The
project and it's API have been grown over the last four years. I know
there are many things to improve and these improvements can go into a
2.0 release.

I'd love to hear some constructive critique or at least some issues on
Github instead of this shitstorm from you, the inventor of
plone.app.event, which has left the project right after the sprint where
it was born.

 
> 
> -aj
> 
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