Re: tiles/blocks

Hi,
@Andreas: Thanks!

@Asko: I think we have to review how p.a.tiles are related to p.a.blocks
and break blocks functionality in order to use the minimum needed for tiles
to work. I also think that in the long run we should be able to bring
gridlets functionality with tiles and other Plone entities.

@Timo: I've used a tool called quickcast.io. It's using HTML5 video and
webm. Maybe I should try to upload it to YouTube.

@Nathan: Gridster is not responsive, although there are some people that
already done some work towards it. I do not think it would be extremely
complex, however having the gridster functionality in small screens would
be desirable but also a commodity. The rendering of the resultant composite
page does not require any JS, only the "edit" widget does. As Asko points
out, the real power of gridster is the custom serializer.

@Dylan: The abstraction of the CSS is one of the main concerns here. I
agree with Simone and Asko that we can have "generic" CSS classes that
lately would be Diazo-ed and transformed into any the grid system own
classes.

c.gridlets is barely a proof of concept, but I think it's a good start to
build more complete and interesting functionality arround the "composite
page/home page" use case. At least make it serve as a starting point
towards a general tiles/grid/layout pattern.

I'm looking forward to continue this discussion at PLOG next week!

Cheers,
V.

Víctor Fernández de Alba
http://about.me/victorfernandezdealba
g+/Twitter/IRC: sneridagh


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Simone Orsi <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Asko Soukka <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dylan Jay wrote:
>> >
>> > But isn't the problem with having grid based layout edit in plone core
>> > is that it will require every front end theme to use that grid system?
>> > For example if it's bootstrap 3 that means all plone 3 themes are
>> > bootstrap 3 based themes
>> >
>>
>> It should not be a too difficult to make the grid system configurable.
>>
>> E.g. if we would have gridster based layout pattern, then the pattern
>> could read from the currnet widget configuration the classes it should
>> use when serializing the gridster-generated layout.
>>
>
>
> ​yep! also: you can replace grid classes via diazo if needed (like we are
> doing with plone grid -> bootstrap grids)
>
>
>
>>
>> -Asko
>>
>> > On 17 Apr 2014 17:58, "Simone Orsi" <[email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi guys,
>> >
>> >     1st of all: nice work Victor!
>> >
>> >     Me and my colleague Giorgio Borelli had done some work on
>> >     composite pages with tiles, using normal tiles and
>> >     plone.app.tiles/blocks for rendering. Rendering tiles on the fly
>> >     it's as simple as using the standard add/edit forms of tiles and
>> >     get the response back via ajax (with good amount of javascript
>> >     around it).
>> >
>> >     In our cases we had a fixed layout with one or two columns but
>> >     using libs such as gridster and alike to get a dynamic layout
>> >     would not require that much work IMO.
>> >
>> >     We are going to give two talks on this at PLOG [1] and we can
>> >     discuss it at the open garden session!
>> >
>> >     Cheers,
>> >     S.
>> >
>> >     [1] http://abstract-technology.com/plog-event-plone-italy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Asko Soukka <[email protected]
>> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi,
>> >
>> >         just saw Victor's c.gridlets. It looks awesome, but I'd still
>> >         like to prefer tiles in the long run, because they are so much
>> >         simpler (in every way) than porlets.
>> >
>> >>         I am currently looking at reaching the objectives described
>> >>         by Guido by only using plone.tiles and plone.app.tiles, but
>> >>         not plone.app.blocks, because of the issue discussed here:
>> >>         https://github.com/plone/plone.app.blocks/issues/5
>> >
>> >         It looks like blocks transform is registered for blocks
>> >         browser layer, so why not just:
>> >
>> >         - Leave the p.a.blocks profile unimported.
>> >         - Stamp only those requests rendering pages with tiles with
>> >         the blocks layer (e.g. in view __init__ so that blocks
>> >         transform would only be active for those requests).
>> >
>> >         Seems that you'll have a lot of fun at Sorrento :)
>> >
>> >         Cheers,
>> >         Asko
>> >
>> >
>> >
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