Re: tiles/blocks

Dylan Jay <djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>
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BTW this is my summary version of "what happened to deco":
- there was a prototype that worked ok, at least for a single page
- the idea came along of a toolbar and separating the js/css from the theme via an iframe (CMSUI)
- this required a new way to write JS since onload handlers don't work in ajax... or something like that
- this turned into mockup and completely reworking JS in Plone. The idea was to return to deco after all this was done

Aside from all of that I think there is a lot of uncertainty and division about the ideas in deco making it hard for some to regain motivation. For example: compulsory grids, removing default pages and Folder content types, removing portlets, etc. IMO the biggest problem is that such a large change is hard for anyone to imagine so no one can give the answer: yes this is 100% the best way forward. That has only left us with building it to see if it works in practice... which seems kind of expensive... and we kind of ran out of steam. The way Plone is built is iterative. I don't think the process works so well for big bang type changes. or at least not so far.

Thats my take on it anyway.


Dylan Jay

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On 16 May 2014, at 3:10 pm, Asko Soukka <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Nathan! That makes a good enough reference.
> 
> Nathan Van Gheem wrote:
>> This is a sorry if working copy I think
>> 
>> https://github.com/collective/plone-conf-2012-ui-sprint/tree/master/clickdummies/future-deco
>> 
>> On May 15, 2014 11:47 PM, Asko Soukka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> 
>>> what version do you mean with the"prototype work Rob Gietma did when he
>>> and Alex Limi were exploring Deco UI ideas"?
>>> 
>>> Budapest 2009 version? CMSUI? Also, would you have the original "Deco UI
>>> proposal"-document available somewhere?
>>> 
>>> It feels that a lot of Deco history is gone with deleted project pages
>>> and video presentations :(
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Asko
>>> 
>>>> On 17 April 2014 18:28, Héctor Velarde <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     On 17-04-2014 13:43, Martin Aspeli wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>           - A grid editor for building layouts, probably as a control
>>>>         panel ala
>>>>         plone.app.theming
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     we can use it to create the views for content types, solve
>>>>     problems like Guido's one and even replace the current grid editor
>>>>     of collective.cover with it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The best realisation of this, IMHO, was the prototype work Rob Gietma
>>>> did when he and Alex Limi were exploring Deco UI ideas. At least as a
>>>> UI reference, I'd start there.
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