Re: Plonely in Austin

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Guido A.J. Stevens
<guido.stevens-JhqamybrQcBmR6Xm/[email protected]> wrote:
>> Speaking of that, how about installing plonesocial on plone.org?
>>    http://www.slideshare.net/GuidoStevens/plonesocial-roadmap
>
> To do what?
>
> I mean, I'm happy PloneSocial has mindshare but the community doesn't
> actually live on plone.org - it's on github, community.plone.org, this list
> and on IRC. Not to mention Twitter, G+ and LinkedIn. It's not as if we're
> suffering from a lack of social media ;-).
>
> Sorry Jean, I don't mean to diss you. But I fail to see how having
> PloneSocial on plone.org would make you less plonely in Austin...

No problem, it's a good question.

We're not suffering from a lack, we're suffering from blowing our precious
knowledge and community across a bunch of commercial hosted services where
it withers. It doesn't give us an overview or feed back to docs.

I brought up plonesocial because when Steve mentioned our virtual community,
I thought of how much nicer a bunch of slack.com rooms would be than IRC. (I'm
old enough to love IRC, but the slack.com style of rich persistent chats is
very attractive.)

And then of course I immediately thought why would I be promoting another
commercial hosted service? When Plone has tools that can strengthen our
virtual community.

If it's a way of life for the Plone community, we would be much better at
selling this aspect of Plone as well. I think the points that you make
about social knowledge building are excellent, and that we can do better
at this.

Don't get me wrong, there is an awesome firehose of good stuff flowing by
(videos and blog posts from sprints, conferences, mailing list discussions,
presentations on slideshare, stackoverflow answers, github issues, etc). But
sprint and conference outputs are not properly collected in one place, I don't
know where to go look for Plone GSoC projects and participation, good work
is often in danger of falling through the cracks unless optilude pops up or
someone with a long memory rehashes the history. Plone has been used in
libraries, municipalities, in GIS applications, in education, but where are
all the lessons learned in all those spheres? Spread across the internet,
fine, there's a ton to trawl through, but if we're in the habit of bringing
content back to plone.org, organising it there in terms of communities and
tags, building the context, it would be many times more valuable.

I don't think putting plonesocial on plone.org will make everything better
overnight (and it would create burdens of maintenance and moderation), but
maybe it can be a step in the right direction.

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