Re: CMF packages on svn.zope.org

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Timo Stollenwerk <tisto-z4DKO/[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> svn.zope.org seems to be down again, breaking our entire CI setup (not
> the first time). As far as I know all zope packages have been moved to
> github already. Though, it seems the CMF project made the decision not
> to move their packages to github. Which is totally fine. Though, since
> svn.zope.org is really unreliable, I think we have to find a solution
> that works for us.

Historical reference: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/zope/cmf/234534

> Some of the CMF packages seems to be on github anyways, but they are not
> considered to be the canonical ones:
>
> https://github.com/zopefoundation/Products.GenericSetup/pull/3

Yuck.

> I haven't been involved into any discussion with the Zope or the CMF
> project, can anybody give me an update on the situation and the current
> status of the packages that we still use from CMF?

Is anyone using CMF outside of Plone anymore anyway?  If so, where; if
not, why not fork (or at least force the issue of getting Zope
contributors to move the development to github.com/zopefoundation)?

> If we are using our own branches anyways (not sure if this is the case),
> wouldn't it make sense to fork or at least mirror the packages that we
> need on github to get a more reliable setup?

Ideally host all packages on github.com/zopefoundation (or permanently
fork them to github.com/plone ?), then have some sort of off-github
git repository mirror (e.g. self-hosted backups or gitlab or
something) to make the all-eggs-in-one-basket worries (e.g. EvilCorp
sends DMCA notices, bye-bye repos) go away?

> This would also allow us to
> put post-commit hooks on the github repos, because so far Jenkins can
> not detect any changes from those packages, making it really hard to
> find possible regressions introduced by those packages.

Someone ought to put this on github somewhere, over the ideological
objections of the detractors -- the community of people using (and
potentially contributing to) CMF seems to have moved there.  Since git
is decentralized (assuming we have automated backups or a mirror), it
ought not to really be that controversial.

Sean

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