Re: We need a canonical away to create plone packages with mr.bob

I was wondering exactly about the same thing and did not reach a decision. 

more pros: 
- maintaining multiple templates takes time&effort we don't have.
- maintaining one template

more cons: 
- Things start to get a little complicated in mr.bob if you want conditional files and skip questions. 
- The nested template is effectively a complete duplicate of the normal template with some variations and has to be manually kept in sync with it. 

I tried to start some sort of hierarchy of questions (i.e. if you want testing you don't get asked about travis and if you don't want a gs-profile most of the question no longer get asked). That can obviously be improved or expanded but I think it's important to have sane default. For now you have to answer only the first five questions and you can press enter for all the others.

Additional features we might want:
Examples:
- example browser-view with template (not using grok)
- example dexterity content with a python schema (since xml-schema based content can be generated ttw)

Theme:
- a more complete example theme (maybe a very simple bootstrap-based theme)
- default css and js resources
- examples for overriding the Plone 5-theme

Test:
- a robot-test
- test using the PLONE_APP_CONTENTTYPES_FIXTURE

...

Philip  

Am 05.12.2014 um 18:35 schrieb Steve McMahon <[email protected]>:

> Great work, Philip (and a Thomas, Vincent and Cédric)!
> 
> One question that I think deserves some thought:
> 
> Should we be aiming a one versatile mr.bob template (with 1 and 2 namespace options), or multiple for different purposes like diazo theme, dexterity content types, ... on the model of the old ZopeSkel/Templer packages?
> 
> One versatile package pros and cons:
> 
> pros
> Since mr.bob doesn't have good facilities for sharing base skeletons (the great strength of ZopeSkel/Templer), having one base template reduces duplicate code.
> cons
> Right from the start, this is a lot of questions. It will get worse when we add functionality like dexterity examples. And questions that are meaningful to someone doing theming may be mysterious to someone adding content types.
> 
> Using one base template may encourage folks to mix a lot of concerns in a single package.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Philip Bauer <[email protected]> wrote:
> ZopeSkel and templer are both officially declared dead. mr.bob is the chosen tool for creating plone packages.
> But there is not yet an official template to use for Plone with mr.bob.
> 
> From some existing packages I created bobtemplates.plone https://github.com/collective/bobtemplates.plone that tries so solve most use-cases. Among other things you can chose to enable/disable the following features in your package: gs-profile, setuphandler, tests, diazo-theme, nested package, grok. It would be great if some of you might have a look at it.
> My hope is that after some fine-tuning we can finally have a way that we can recommend for creating new packages.
> 
> Philip
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