Re: Plone distributions that catch

Armin Stroß-Radschinski <[email protected]> Sun, 22 Mar 2015 09:31:51 +0100
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I fully agree with you both.

We saw excellent examples from other CMSses at CMS Garden since 2013 (e.g. Typo3) and their awful systems looked nice to the audience at first sight. 

Our excellent volunteers were able compensate that for the garden to some point, but imagine the use case if no one of us is out there.

The first step to a "sale" is to catch by emotion and bind value to the initial impression!

Thats one of the (quite easy) challenges that will help to grow Plone and make it survive better than without.

I agree a GSOC volunteer could work on the automation Sven mentions. But we need professional communication guiding to avoid to end up with a nerdy useless experience. If you need a coach volunteering for that I am in.

cu in Sorrento

-- Armin

Am 21.03.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Dylan Jay <djay-n0pU0XVUApFWk0Htik3J/[email protected]>:

> The building of images/installers is great, awesome work, but I think there are two other missing bits - default content/config and the ability to create these default sites easily without admin access.
> If you look at what wix or squarespace or WordPress themes on theme forest they are much more than what we call a theme. They are a whole site in a box. A book store. A restaurant. A government pet registry. We need GS + diazo + content + plugins all in one file. No ones first experience of plone should ever see a blank site again.
> I think we should also look at Erics plans for ttw views so site specific logic could be included in a theme https://github.com/ebrehault/collective.ttw/blob/master/README.md
> 
> I realise it sounds like a recipe to lose business by helping people to not need integrators or but I believe plone is still the most powerful system for ttw customimization and that is really the only unique selling proposition it has left. If we appeal to those who want to get something up quickly rather than those who want big complex half apps half sites then we will have a growing community rather than a shrinking one. 
> A rising tide lifts all boats.
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2015, at 3:57 pm, sven <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> @djay
>> 
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/plone/mailman/message/33621954/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sven
>> 
>> On 21/03/15 04:35, Dylan Jay wrote:
>>> Like Érico gave a talk on last year. But more.
>>> 
>>> Imagine downloading a university distribution from plone.org, installing it and then having a local saas service which allows anyone with an email address to create one of 4 kinds of sites complete with theme , plugins and default content showing how the site works.
>>> 
>>> Anyone can build and upload a distribution to plone.org by freezing a current site and clicking upload.
>>> 
>>> Plone.org can also provide links to cloud services if they want to try the same thing online.
>>> 
>>> We don't need themes, we need whole quick start sites people can modify.
>>> 
>>> 
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