Re: Time to close down the mailinglist

Thanks Martin, it's time. Developers spend most of their time communicating
via github these days and the new mailing lists work fine and are more
newbie friendly.

Also, of course, it's nice to not have to maintain another server.

I appreciate all the work the AI team has done.


Thanks,
Nathan

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk <
martior-z4DKO/[email protected]> wrote:

> 1) If anyone wants to run a nntp gateway they are very welcome to do so.
> There seem to be some efforts into writing one. Unfortunately the AI team
> does not have resources to support that.
>
> 2) Yes, that has been fixed. An upgrade have fixed the problem.
>
> 3)
> I would say that being better for newbies and new developers is a major
> feature. For core developers a significant amount of communication must
> happen off list and mostly in github issues and pull requests anyway?
> Looking at my email history it looks like about one "topic"/thread per day
> with about 6 replies per topic (not necessarily from the same day). So it
> is not a very high traffic list. Some of the discussions there are very
> interesting and could benefit from more exposure outside the list, which
> they get on community.plone.org.
>
> We already have a Core Development category that gets about 10 new topics
> per month, so a lot of you already monitor and use both.
>
> Embrace the future* of message board technology :-)
>
>  (*by future I mean 2013 tech and newish ideas about how to run a message
> board)
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jens W. Klein <jens-/[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The current community.plone.org is missing features to replace this list
>> and support the people behind this list (its consumers).
>>
>> 1) Anyway I'd really prefer some NNTP backed system, as this list is -
>> using Gmane. NNTP has some major advantages and fits much better as an
>> inbox than some webpage.
>>
>> If theres an 2-way nntp proxy as it is for mailing lists, this would be
>> the way to go and support a more diverse world of developers.
>>
>> 2) Is the bug/ broken feature of sending replies on emails fixed
>> meanwhile? To not be able to reply by email is (was?) a real problem
>> with community.plone.org. Any github issue tracker does better here.
>>
>> 3) community.plone.org usability/ UX is far from optimal, 2 examples:
>>
>> 3.1) may we have a alternative more compact theme/mode to read messages
>> on community.plone.org? If I have to read through a browser I'd really
>> prefer more information at once on one screen page.
>>
>> 3.2) also its not possible to get a comprehensive tree of topics with
>> its threads and replies. Any stone-age mailing list archive view does
>> better here.
>>
>>
>> Dont get me wrong, community.plone.org is really nice, but its not well
>> done for power users. Its interface addresses newbies and here much is
>> done right. But if we start replacing a developers list and the scope is
>> broaden we need to make community.plone.org support features for power
>> users.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>> On 2015-10-19 10:21, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > With community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org> working as well
>> as
>> > it does, it is probably time to close down this mailing list.
>> >
>> > Core-developer category on community.plone.org
>> > <http://community.plone.org>:
>> https://community.plone.org/c/core-development
>> >
>> > Setting up discourse to almost work like a mailing
>> > list:
>> https://community.plone.org/t/faq-common-questions-about-using-this-forum/152
>> >
>> > Unless there is a overwhelming negative response from current core
>> > contributors we will close down this list by the end of the year.
>> >
>> > Thank you so much.
>> >
>> >
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