Re: Sprint: clean up Plone day [was: A few suggestions]

On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:26 PM, Dylan Jay wrote:
> Thanks so much for the info David. I suspected that there was a lot  
> of these
> simplifications going on.
>
> I think the stuff that's being rethought is already being taken care  
> of
> well. So is there anything left over that doesn't need completely  
> new design
> but rather just recoding? Same functionality, same api just remove the
> obsolete technology.

There probably are some.  However, one problem is that we don't really  
have a well-defined API.  Anything that doesn't begin with an  
underscore is kind of fair game.  And another problem is that choice  
of technology usually has implications for the API by which an item is  
used.  e.g. you specify form actions one way with CMFFormController  
forms, and a completely different way with formlib and z3c.form.

> The two you brought up are good examples, user registration and  
> commenting.
>
> I don't think it needs a sprint by core devs to identify these but a  
> sprint
> or tune up day might be a good place to harness new volunteers to  
> refactor
> this code. It would love a public list of core components that I could
> refactor if I had a spare weekend or better yet could do in a remote  
> sprint
> in conjunction with a team headed by a core developer.
>
> Only someone with more of an architectural overview than me could  
> answer if
> that is possible or even wise.

Jon Stahl proposed a similar thing a few months back, see the  
discussion in this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg01848.html

We recently added a "feature request" ticket type to Plone trac, which  
IMHO is a good place for core developers to record cleanup/refactoring  
sorts of tasks as they come to mind (and then follow-up discussion of  
consequences and implementation details).  Regardless of size of the  
task or whether it will end up being PLIPped.

> And yes as you point out the process would have to result in new  
> code + more
> api documentation + more unit tests.
>
> Dylan Jay
> Technical Solutions Manager, PretaWeb.com

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