Re: Plone 3.2 User Manual Update

"Jeff Pittman" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation
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Using urllib2 and BeautifulSoup, can now pull and parse a manual and all its
pages for title, description, body text html tags...

Jeff

Jeff Pittman
http://www.geojeff.org


On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Jeff Pittman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm... could the prose of the user manual contain hooks in hidden comments
> in an unobtrusive way (invisible to editors)?
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Pittman
> http://www.geojeff.org
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Pittman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, keeping the editable prose in Plone is the way to go -- sorry to have
>> suggested svn for this.
>>
>> For developing a system of updating the screen captures and other
>> analytical/update work done independently on the user manual -- independent
>> of the standard prose editing in place on plone.org -- the html of the
>> prose could be grabbed over the top with a scrape, or via a custom script on
>> plone.org.  A python/filesystem approach could be developed in parallel
>> for doing the automation by parsing the html/restructured text.  A parallel
>> html version of the user manual could be rendered on the desktop for
>> inspection as you work on the screen captures, and fresh images/media could
>> be uploaded in bulk when done.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Jeff Pittman
>> http://www.geojeff.org
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Steve McMahon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Automating the screenshots is totally cool. It's the editable prose
>>> that we'd like to keep inside the CMS, where it can be worked on by
>>> prose writers who aren't necessarily comfortable with svn and
>>> particular markup schemes.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Pittman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The screen capture facility would be accomplished, I imagine, with a
>>> driver
>>> > script operating on hooks (special codes) in the docs to drive the
>>> browser
>>> > and captures -- or such a script developed in parallel.
>>> >
>>> > Regarding complication of such a system, having a driver system in
>>> python is
>>> > not a bad thing -- we are a python house, ultimately. :)
>>> >
>>> > And, I wouldn't want us to shy away from innovation.  Such an approach
>>> > inherently requires an intelligent system, for which we are fully
>>> capable of
>>> > designing and maintaining.  It would be like other complicated python
>>> > scripts I use on the command line -- a chore to build, but once they
>>> work,
>>> > they become workhorse utilities.
>>> >
>>> > Jeff
>>> >
>>> > Jeff Pittman
>>> > http://www.geojeff.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:18 PM, JoAnna Springsteen <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Jeff Pittman <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Also, at a recent sprint, there was an exploration of automation for
>>> >> > screen
>>> >> > captures for the user manual and other documentation needs.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yup. Seems like we've been talking about this since the PSU symposium.
>>> >> I know Paul Everitt had thoughts on how this could be done too.
>>> >> Not sure if anything ever came of it though.
>>> >> Would still be interested in hearing how we could accomplish this
>>> >> without making it hugely complicated.
>>> >
>>> >
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